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#1 Scale-Master

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 07:33 AM

Based on the 1st Generation Camaro platform, this is a styling exercise using what became the roof and rear end of the 2nd Generation Camaro.
The rear panel & roof/trunk is from an AMT ’70 Camaro, the main body is the Revell ‘69. The rear window frame was rescribed and sanded flush. The rear door lines were filled and new ones were scribed.
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Posted 01 February 2011 - 07:46 AM

Mark-
Hopefully you'll continue with this build and it'll morph into a Z28! :lol:

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 08:08 AM

Wow really cool idea!!!!! Saw something similar as a rendering in a Camaro mag a few months back. If i can find it I will post up some pics for ya. Should also check out 2010 Goodguys street machine of the year as it is a 67 morphed with a new Camaro. May gain some inspiration there as well. Can't wait to see more progress.

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 08:49 AM

Man,that looks nice..

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Posted 02 February 2011 - 06:30 AM

Thanks guys!
Your observations are duly noted, but I planned this out as far as what the styling parameters were to be well before laying saw to plastic.
It can’t make use of the 1975 and later wrap around rear window because it did not exist in 1969. It can’t have an L88 hood because it needs to follow mainstream production 1969 Camaro cues for the front of the car.
I am not trying to make a street custom, just toying with a what-if premise based on some fact, some (more) imagination… I already had written this perspective of the project before:

With the late arrival of the 1970 (and ½) Camaro to the dealers, I wondered if possibly there was a chance of a dialogue of using a “filler” design utilizing the existing 1969 Camaro base. One with enough of a visual change, by using part of the new second generation body to create a transitional and producible design, but still be relatively structurally and mechanically the same car as the previous year. A design that could be further modified into an all new car for the following year(s)?

Anyone recall the 1961 & ’62 Corvettes, and how the rear end of the subsequent mid-year Corvettes from 1963-’67 shared that new rear end styling attached to the previous 1958-'60 body? The last year for the solid axle was 1962, and the 1963 Corvette was an all new car...

Is it not plausible that Chevrolet could have tried a past method of producing an interim car? Many concept cars do not see the light of day. Who’s to say there is not something like this buried in the archives?

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Posted 02 February 2011 - 06:38 AM

Very interesting perspective behind your build. Quite familiar with the Corvette idea you mention as I have been a Vette junkie for a long time. Bring on the updates bro as I am anxious to see your idea take shape.

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Posted 02 February 2011 - 06:47 AM

Some of you guys come up with the best ideas, this will be terrific!!!!!! :lol:

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Posted 02 February 2011 - 07:02 AM

Oooo, I'm liking this! Great idea! :lol:

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Posted 02 February 2011 - 07:38 AM

So, Mark. Which resin caster will be offering this beautiful creation of yours for sale to us, the unwashed masses?

Exceptionally smooth blend of both body styles! I love it!

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Posted 02 February 2011 - 09:42 AM

Again, Thanks guys!
I do have someone who is willing to cast it in resin...
But since it only uses easy to find two common kits, (any AMT 1970 Camaro, and any Revell 1969 Camaro), and one of them is needed for the engine/chassis/interior anyway, (the Revell '69). Plus it only took a few hours to cut and combine them to the state it is in those pictures. It makes more sense to show how I did it and let anyone who wants to build their own instead of sending it out, waiting for it to come back, and investing all that time and material in casting them. We are builders aren't we?

This shows where I cut and combined the bodies.
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I used CA to cement them together and did not even need any body filler. A PE saw, X-Acto knife and a scriber were used to cut the bodies apart and rescribe the rear window and door lines. The rest is basic building techniques.

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Posted 02 February 2011 - 09:56 AM

Mark, based on that tan plastic I'm assuming you used one of the 1989ish AMT Z28 with the mis-shapen Rally Sport nose? Very cool build! :lol:

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Posted 02 February 2011 - 10:14 AM

Again, Thanks guys!
I do have someone who is willing to cast it in resin...
But since it only uses easy to find two common kits, (any AMT 1970 Camaro, and any Revell 1969 Camaro), and one of them is needed for the engine/chassis/interior anyway, (the Revell '69). Plus it only took a few hours to cut and combine them to the state it is in those pictures. It makes more sense to show how I did it and let anyone who wants to build their own instead of sending it out, waiting for it to come back, and investing all that time and material in casting them. We are builders aren't we?

This shows where I cut and combined the bodies.

I used CA to cement them together and did not even need any body filler. A PE saw, X-Acto knife and a scriber were used to cut the bodies apart and rescribe the rear window and door lines. The rest is basic building techniques.



Sure, make us do our own work!! :P ;)

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Posted 02 February 2011 - 10:23 AM

Mark, based on that tan plastic I'm assuming you used one of the 1989ish AMT Z28 with the mis-shapen Rally Sport nose? Very cool build! :lol:

Yep. Guilt free way to go in my book!

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Posted 02 February 2011 - 11:32 AM

Will looks awesome when it finished!!!

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Posted 02 February 2011 - 01:48 PM

Is there going to be rear sideglass? Theres no way a window of that shape would be able to roll in the door. But beside that this is badass !!! The thing I always did not like about those 70 camaros was the front end.

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Posted 02 February 2011 - 02:17 PM

Thanks!. No quarter windows, like a second gen. And I have reshaped the door and fitted the door windows before establishing that door line. With the proper regulator,the window could roll up.

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Posted 02 February 2011 - 03:12 PM

Mark,

I am digging this and I really appreciate the how-to to do it ourselves. While buying a resin piece could be easier, the way you showed how you mated the two kits together really makes this look like a simple project.

I have two ideas in my head for this prototype- a COPO version and a ProTouring version. I think the COPO would use the standard grille and the ProTouring would use the RS grille with the hideaway headlamps. I really prefer the hideaway headlamps from the 67/68 Camaros over the 69 but keeping with the theme, I guess the 69 grille would be the one to use.

Can't wait to see some progress on this, you got it done yet? :D

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Posted 02 February 2011 - 03:41 PM

This reminds me of one of the aussie Falcons, where it sort of looks like a Torino in the rear and a Mustang from the front. Really neat idea. Good work.

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Posted 02 February 2011 - 08:16 PM

Mark-

I understand the story behind the build and I like to do the same thing at times. I like the look of this with one exception. The disparity between the front and rear fender peaks bugs me. The front fenders come to a nice sharp peak where as the rear fenders are rounded at the top. This is, to me, what adds to the weighty look of the rear. Unfortunately with the story involved there is no way to fix this without losing what each body style is (or was in it's day). All of that aside, I really like what you have done and I appreciate your work involved. I can't wait to see this in color.

Later-

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Posted 03 February 2011 - 07:23 AM

Mark-

I understand the story behind the build and I like to do the same thing at times. I like the look of this with one exception. The disparity between the front and rear fender peaks bugs me. The front fenders come to a nice sharp peak where as the rear fenders are rounded at the top. This is, to me, what adds to the weighty look of the rear. Unfortunately with the story involved there is no way to fix this without losing what each body style is (or was in it's day). All of that aside, I really like what you have done and I appreciate your work involved. I can't wait to see this in color.

Later-


I agree with Modlbldr. I think that it might flow a little better with the ridges, or character lines, from the '69 rear quarter panels. With that being said, I love it! What a great concept!