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#101 mrspex

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 08:18 AM

Terry, those are some great models of OLD cars! Thanks for posting them!



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Posted 14 December 2012 - 08:37 AM

In the Car Modeler annual from 2001, I did a story called "The Veteran Motorcar" about antique and classic car kits, including Monogram's entire series. Here's a couple of unusual antiques that I like.

 

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This is a kit of the "1877" (though not really) Selden Patent Wagon. George Selden patented the concept of automobile in 1879, so that everyone who built an automobile had to pay him a royalty. Henry Ford broke the patent in 1911. In response to Ford's suit, Selden had to build a working example from the original patent blueprints. This is a 1/24 scale model of that vehicle.

 

It was produced by a Los Angeles company called Mod-Ac in 1946. So what you're looking at is one of the oldest 1/24 scale kits of one of the earliest automobiles.

 

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This is an 1886 Benz Patent Motorwagen (correct German spelling). This is one of the oldest "practical" automobiles, and it still exists. I've seen video of it running. Must be a great ride. This 1/24 scale model was a promotional produced by Minichamps for M-B's 100th anniversary.

 

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This is an 1886 Daimler Motor Carriage. It's another M-B/Minichamps promo in 1/24 scale.

 

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And this is an Airfix 1904 Darracq. First produced in about 1955, it went through various releases (including an MPC "hot rod" version). It's listed as 1/32 but is actually 1/24.5 or thereabouts.

 

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You can see here that it compares very well with an AMT 1925 Ford Model T.

 

Love them old cars....

 

Terry

 

 

 

 

 

Excellant history lesson .on some really cool replicas I wouldn't mind having for my own.

 

Are any of these avail reasonably ?

 

Many thanks



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Posted 14 December 2012 - 01:57 PM

Okay, I scanned the thread and may have missed the answer, so DUH me if I did......is the tooling the same for the monogram Metal-Master 1/24 boat-tail Packard as for the plastic version of the same car?



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Posted 14 December 2012 - 02:48 PM

Okay, I scanned the thread and may have missed the answer, so DUH me if I did......is the tooling the same for the monogram Metal-Master 1/24 boat-tail Packard as for the plastic version of the same car?

Yes, the Metal Master kits are plastic, but plated like the "chrome" parts in other kits. I have one of the Packard boat tails (unbuilt) that I plan to strip and paint, someday......



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Posted 15 December 2012 - 12:11 PM

Yes, the Metal Master kits are plastic, but plated like the "chrome" parts in other kits. I have one of the Packard boat tails (unbuilt) that I plan to strip and paint, someday......

Thank you sir.



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Posted 17 December 2012 - 11:46 PM

Yes, the Metal Master kits are plastic, but plated like the "chrome" parts in other kits. I have one of the Packard boat tails (unbuilt) that I plan to strip and paint, someday......

 

Parts that would be chrome in the 1:1 are plated in gold, and the rest is satin chrome.  It's not as bad as it sounds if built carefully, and appropriate washes etc are applied.  When I built mine a while back, amongst other things, I also used suitable colour paints to suggest natural leather for the seats & spare wheel cover, so that the effect was more realistic, i.e. as a scale model of a full size car that had been finished in that way (e.g. something that might have once belonged to Liberace), rather than a crude toy, which is how the photos on the box (without any detail painting) makes it look.  If it's of interest, I can dig out some photos.



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Posted 19 December 2012 - 08:07 AM

A similar lapse in taste is seen in Revell's "Museum" version of the 1/16 Rolls Phantom II Continental - it comes with fabric appliqué for the top, precut wood dash, museum display rope and base, klunky wire wheels instead of the regular wheel discs - and all the trim parts that are normally chrome are gold-plated.  :wacko:

 

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 08:02 AM

I have watched this posting with interest. Over the years I have built all of the models discussed here. I would be curious which one people think is the best overall. Personally I really like the Monogram '31 Packard Phaeton in metal. It is a model I could build over and over. As for non-Monogram models it is pretty hard to beat Johan's lineup. I have struggled mightily to do a good job with the Cadillac Fleetwood Town Car's pinstriped body but have never come up with an acceptable way to approach that one.

A question was presented earlier about the Rolston Roadster and if it is a model of a real car. The answer is "sort of." Terry Adderly of Troy Michigan used to own J-550 (he still might. I just don't know), which was the only Rolston Roadster mounted on the long wheelbase Duesenberg J chassis. It is a beautiful car and Monogram did a pretty good job on it...except, they, like they did on all the other Duesenberg models, left it as a supercharged car. In order to have a correct version of J-550 you would need to either close up the holes in the fender and scratch build hood sides and manifolds or get ahold of Andy Martin at Aardvark models where you can get ahold of a transkit for such purposes. Truth of the matter is except the Torpedo Phaeton, almost all of the Monogram Duesenbergs would benefit from such a transformation.

One other comment. S. Jordan, I have spent a fair amount of time admiring your work on the 540 K Coupe. All I can say is WOW!

Eric

Edited by Eric Macleod, 31 December 2012 - 08:03 AM.


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Posted 31 December 2012 - 08:20 AM

I have watched this posting with interest. Over the years I have built all of the models discussed here. I would be curious which one people think is the best overall. Personally I really like the Monogram '31 Packard Phaeton in metal. It is a model I could build over and over. As for non-Monogram models it is pretty hard to beat Johan's lineup. I have struggled mightily to do a good job with the Cadillac Fleetwood Town Car's pinstriped body but have never come up with an acceptable way to approach that one.

A question was presented earlier about the Rolston Roadster and if it is a model of a real car. The answer is "sort of." Terry Adderly of Troy Michigan used to own J-550 (he still might. I just don't know), which was the only Rolston Roadster mounted on the long wheelbase Duesenberg J chassis. It is a beautiful car and Monogram did a pretty good job on it...except, they, like they did on all the other Duesenberg models, left it as a supercharged car. In order to have a correct version of J-550 you would need to either close up the holes in the fender and scratch build hood sides and manifolds or get ahold of Andy Martin at Aardvark models where you can get ahold of a transkit for such purposes. Truth of the matter is except the Torpedo Phaeton, almost all of the Monogram Duesenbergs would benefit from such a transformation.

One other comment. S. Jordan, I have spent a fair amount of time admiring your work on the 540 K Coupe. All I can say is WOW!

Eric

 

Thanks Eric, but I think you've confused me with someone else. I have a lot of planning in progress for a 500K coupe, but nothing to show.

 

By the way, I think you should post your WIP on the Rolls Ascot on this forum. It's looking great so far.



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Posted 01 January 2013 - 04:51 AM

Second that motion!



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Posted 02 January 2013 - 09:39 PM

Thanks for posting about those I got couple  of builtups of them wasnt sure which ones they were they really are different and cool I figure im gonna clean then up and put them on the shelf I think I got all the parts for them there were in a bag

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Edited by robo37, 02 January 2013 - 09:41 PM.