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1/16 70.5 ADRL Extreme Pro Mod Camaro Update: 6/4 addition of wheelie bar

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#261 MicroNitro

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 01:42 AM

Well, I thought I would resurrect this build from the DEAD and show a small update... :) With the Heartland Nationals next weekend, I would like to have it standing on its own two legs (4 legs in this case) so I can at least set it in the "Unfinished" category.

So needless to say the wafer thin 3D printed part that comes from TDR to mount the rear Caliper to is just way to flimsy, so I had to do something about that. Plus the kicker was that it wasn't long enough to work in my application to fit over my Hub and onto the Carbon rotor. So I got out my brass and begin to draw a pattern out and and today was the day with my second attempt and I like the final result. Now I just need to duplicate it for the other side.

On with the show as they say!!
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Once I complete the other side I can move to the front and begin figuring out what I need to do with that mess. :lol:

Thanks for looking in, at my slow as molasses progress. LOL

Your Doing a great job building looks really really nice. Bart all of the time you spent really shows.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 01:54 AM

maybe this will help.

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What is that off of the rotors I make are to fit a top fuel or funny car. I have never seen such a little rotor on a race car. I have never worked on anything but top fuel though.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 03:44 AM

dave is correct with the 11.5 carbon rotors from lamb and strange

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 03:59 AM

Bart you are doing a tremendous job on this chassis, especially for some of your first attempts, everything looks first class, you got the right guy giving you advise, Dave is oozing with knowledge of these cars,we are lucky to have him! I can't wait to see this thing next weekend, don't forgrt to bring it saturday even though the show is sunday!! see you there!

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 03:59 AM

dave I for one very much appreciate the help ypu give us on the drag racing members

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 05:38 AM

listen, i'm trying to help you guys out. i offer up-to-date pics with scaling in them. i see no one else offering this to the drag racing members of this board. i am attempting to help eliminate the bull and other junk that happens on drag racing modeling sites.


if you don't like it, i will gladly stop! just say so. you can go right back to incorrect parts that don't fit or don't belong.


Ok, I am not quite sure why this entire conversation went south and has become a match about right or wrong. Hey I don't have any ill will towards anyone. First off I don't have a lathe or mill of my own to make these parts, so I am thankful for getting what I got. I have to take some ownership in this as well. Because if I was wanting something a different size or designed differently that is my fault to begin with because I don't have the talent to use CAD. Probably more of the patience to learn the program really! I would rather be building, I guess that is the ADD in me. :)

Dave I have to say that I for one appreciate your feedback, for me I don't care for it to be sugar coated and nicey nice. I am someone that would rather have it direct and to the point. Even at work, I tell my boss "Just get to the POINT!"... LOL.

I would hope you for one; would know by now, how much it is appreciated that you are willing to share photo's. Because if it wasn't for you sharing them either Offline or even posting them on the forums, I wouldn't be able to churn out (can I say that? because my stuff isn't fast by any means. :D )any of the stuff that I have made. When building stuff from scratch and trying to get measurements of parts, it is virtually DARN NEAR IMPOSSIBLE to even think about attempting such a task. But with your help and current knowledge, since you are around this stuff, it helps not only me but others as well.

In the end, not only do I learn from my mistakes but I also get the opportunity to see and experience parts that I would probably never get the chance to see up close that aren't mounted to the car and pretty much invisible.

Edited by eviltwincustoms, 03 June 2012 - 05:43 AM.


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Posted 03 June 2012 - 06:04 AM

The build is coming out real nice Bart, this is to Dave, 2 things,: #1 I agree with Bart, really like seeing any info you can give on the P/M's, at the moment I'm not building any 1/16th scale stuff, working on 2 1/25th scale builds, but I still use info from you,#2: I think what Jim (micronitro) was wondering about was what kind of car those rotors came off of, since he works mainly on the fuel cars.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 06:15 AM

Wow, "if you don't like it, i will gladly stop! just say so. you can go right back to incorrect parts that don't fit or don't belong." You are a great builder and very talented, but we did not just build junk before you enlightened us. Please, please do not say that a part I built is the wrong size. I have access to all the full size parts and can divide by 16. I try very hard to make products which exceed my customers expectations. I built full size top fuel and funny cars for over 20 years and still have access to the shop. If you think something is wrong please email me first to make sure you're correct. I now make a living building these parts and take their quality very serious. Now, I think we should give this thread back to Bart and his exceptional build.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 06:28 AM

I agree with jim give this thread back to bart and his fantastic build

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Posted 04 June 2012 - 05:06 PM

Just a small update, I thought I would show some work I have done in roughing out the wheelie bar. Keep in mind the wheels and rear end is just pinned in place so in a few of the pictures the passengers side wheel looks out of camber and the right rear coil over isn't mounted solid. :)

I decided to go with 104" Wheelie Bars with 4" slim-line poly Magnum wheelie wheels. I may go add the extra small hole in the middle part to look like some orange ones from Jerry Brickle if I feel daring. I wish I had a rotary table and mill or lathe to get the holes centered accurately, but it is close enough for doing it by hand. I even added the concave from the bearing out, which was a pain dealing with white.. maybe I can work this better once primered up so i can see it better (or it may look totally awful once I do that... we will see)
Currently I have them set up where they are running a scale 3" off of the ground, not sure where most run them as a first time generic setup when they start testing. If anyone know's and would like to provide insight it would be greatly appreciated. I can then get my wheelie mounts mounted in place for that top down bar and begin working on the support bars.

Oh, my small Points file is my new High Tech Rear wing, it just needs to be adjusted for more down force! LOL

Here are some quick photos.... Thanks for stopping in and taking a look see.
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Posted 04 June 2012 - 05:26 PM

The last shot is the money shot. Awesome work!

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 02:09 AM

Those wheelie bars look awesome. Did you custom make them or of the shelf?

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 02:55 AM

those custom wheelie bars and wheels look great will be watching for updates on this

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 02:55 AM

The wheels look very good to me but if you want I would be happy to make some N/C for you. It is the lest I can do.

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 06:08 AM

The wheeliebar came out great looking Bart, like that new style rear wing too :lol: , don't know how much downforce it'll give at any angle tho!, from watching the P/M's on TV I don't think the height should be all that important, they start out pretty close to the ground until after the launch, then they seem (to me anyway) jump up & have quite a bit of ground clearance.

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 07:41 AM

this is how I am going to do mine

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 08:35 AM

this is how I am going to do mine


Thanks Henry, based on the Picture it looks like they are roughly 4-6" off the ground, making the bottom bars Parallel to the ground plane. The only thing I don't know is if this is just because he is in the shop or if this is where they would ride all the time.

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 08:39 AM

Those wheelie bars look awesome. Did you custom make them or of the shelf?


Thanks Kane for the complement, I am happy with the way they are working out. I am not aware of any wheelie bars off the shelf,.... well now that I think about it I guess there are some 1/16 scale funny car diecast. But to answer your question they are or will be scratch built out of styrene and stainless steel tubing. I was going to go with all styrene, but find them to be extremely flexible and wanted something with a little more rigidity to them. But with me... this could change a couple days from now. LOL

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 08:47 AM

Good Job with the wheelie bars, Bart! This ProMod Camaro is gonna look awesome when finished. I guess it's time to pick up my jaw from the floor. ;)

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 10:41 AM

your welcome bart it looks like they ride like that but will look for more