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1963 Biscayne "Mystery Motor" Z-33


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#21 Funkster

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 12:01 PM

Yes the cars from the early 60's sat high in the front end for weight transfer. My Dad had a 65 Plymouth Sport Fury with 426 CID option.
That car came from the factory with the front end high just like the drag cars of that time.

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 08:59 AM

I have not worked on the Biscayne for a while, but started to get some things done this weekend. Mostly getting it all mocked up with the chassis and resin interior tub. I have to ger some red ribbon, or some material for some seat belts, and I still have to finish and detail the engine. Also the vacuum formed glass is all trimmed up to fit. At least I have an idea what it should look like overall.

Getting pretty sick and tired everytime I go to buy Tamiya paint...the Government, has to pe a PITA with their labeling guidelines....So, I had to buy some Rustolem Apple Red paint, that is real close to the Tamiya Italian Red, for the interior, and some Rustolem Black Lacquer for the body. I really am thinking about just waiting until March to get the Tamiya Black for the body, though.



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Posted 26 February 2012 - 09:02 AM

The actual mock up.


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Posted 26 February 2012 - 10:05 AM

wicked! i'd even dig it if you kept it in primer

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 02:10 PM

Wasn't the Z33 engine more related to the later MKIV big blocks than the 348/409?

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 02:28 PM

Here is some info on this car:
http://www.chevytalk...php?tid/145280/ As Craig said the Mystery 427 looked much like the production 396/427 but shared no interchangeable parts.

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 04:59 PM

I do have a 396/427 style engine I was going to put in the car. I was reading somewhere that in the real car, the original engine was removed, and destroyed??? info on this car is a bit confusing. I do remember the very first 427's looking like a 409. Now, was the real engine a "W" engine, and replaced with Mark IV??? And was this car ever really raced in the 60's??? I can stll install the the Mark IV, but if WAS the 409 style in the car originally, then the 409 style will stay. From the article just posted, it seems it did have the 396 style in it from the start.

I also saw an article somewhere on the Sox & Sinclair car, and, IIRC, the "W" engine in it was refered to as a 427.

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 05:03 PM

OK after re reading that link, it was stated that the car was a "could have been" but never happened. That would explain why I had never found ANY info of it being a true race car being ran in the 60's.

I happened to come across this car on Lucas Decals site, and thought it would be a nice build. I would like for it to be as correct as possible though, especially the powertrain.

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 06:46 PM

I thought the MK II 427 was NASCAR only, that explains it. The 427 W block was the Z11.

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 10:09 AM

This thread is back from the dead. I got in the mood to do some building about a few weeks ago. Been away for over a year and a half. Decided to change the engine to look more like the one in the tribute car.

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 10:25 AM

So far, so good.

 

That MCW body looks pretty nice; I can see that on my shelf with a six and dog-dishes in some anonymous color.

 

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 10:33 AM

I like MCWs stuff. I got some Z-11 stuff, like headers and such, and I probably spent just as much time cleaning them up as I would have on styrene. I'm currently waiting on a 63 Galaxie lightweight interior kit from MCW, for my next project.



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Posted 26 October 2013 - 01:06 PM

Doesn't the Revell 55 Chevy have the Z-11 motor?



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Posted 26 October 2013 - 03:26 PM

Great looking project...



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Posted 26 October 2013 - 08:30 PM

Doesn't the Revell 55 Chevy have the Z-11 motor?

 

Don't know about that, but at least AMT '62 Super Stock Bel Air kits have Z11 engine parts. That's the kit I'm trying to find with reasonable price to use the engine in my '63 Z11 Impala. That, decals and interior parts are the only things I'm still missing.

 

This looks very interesting. One of my favorite subjects and very nicely built so far. Keep it going.



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Posted 27 October 2013 - 05:44 AM

MCW does make some nice stuff, I have a few of their bodies. You are doing some nice work.

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Posted 31 October 2013 - 09:28 AM

I rebuilt the interior with a different roll bar, and got rid of that bright "Apple Red" Rustoleum, and repainted it with Tamiya "Italian Red". I would have liked to paint the body today, but the weather is not cooperating.

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Posted 31 October 2013 - 11:05 AM

Are those AMT F - 60 front tires on that chassis?



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Posted 31 October 2013 - 11:38 AM

Are those AMT F - 60 front tires on that chassis?

Yes. G-70-14 belted poly glass is on them. Don't know which kit(s) as I got a bunch of tires and rims recently.



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Posted 31 October 2013 - 12:13 PM

Lookin sharp!!!!