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[Dr. Cranky]

Bill, the more we all talk about this kit in terms of what we can do with the parts, the more possibilities there will be for building some cool models.

 

I'm not kidding you when I tell you that just the wheels alone in this kit are going to spruce up thousands of models we will see in the coming years on this forum and on the show tables.

[MachinistMark]

Cannot wait to get these on shelves here in Canada..

[Brett Barrow]

Bill, the more we all talk about this kit in terms of what we can do with the parts, the more possibilities there will be for building some cool models.

 

I'm not kidding you when I tell you that just the wheels alone in this kit are going to spruce up thousands of models we will see in the coming years on this forum and on the show tables.

Exactamundo.

 

There is a lot to be excited by in this kit.  

It's the first Revell deuce with an unfilled grille shell and grill with a starter crank hole.

First with a stock firewall.  

The wheels and tires (BTW, Coker offers those same cheater slicks with wide whitewalls.  Just sayin...) 

The Buick portholes - love 'em or hate 'em on the real car, a lot of guys (and gals?) are going to be grafting them onto all sorts of things.

The modern Tremec transmission.

Chopped windsheild

A blown SBC that will fit under a hood.  (ok, so it's not a 4-71, but it's a start) 

The headers - I think they'd look even better on a T

Nice new exhaust with well molded glass packs (not those formless worms from the older deuces)

 

Is it the McMullen deuce?  No - but neither is the real car.  Like I said before, my only real disappointment is the lack of an I-beam axle up front.  

[Ace-Garageguy]

Agreed, it's a bunch of good stuff all in one box, but all of those bits are in my parts-stash already from other sources and years of building (except the portholes ...). so it will be a special boon to modelers who don't currently have a bunch of parts in stock.

[bandit1]

Rat Roaster!

 

http://staceydavid.c...cts/rat-roaster

[58 Impala]

Saw them at my local Hobbytown, $24.95. I'll wait for Hobby Lobby and use my coupon and save $11. I was looking at the kit, I have so many Deuce kits now the only parts I want are the wheels/tires and the fenders.

[southpier]

based on several current topics, i dare say we've become a fickle lot.

 

at this juncture, it begs to be asked: if there is so much wrong with what we're being offered by the major manufacturers, why not just forgo the kits entirely and build strictly from the aftermarket catalog?  that way everyone can choose exactly the part they want / need, and no grumbles about having leftovers which are not true to scale, era, pleasing in proportion, or they'll never use.

[58 Impala]

I like the kit, but I have more kits than I'll build in my lifetime. So I tend to procrastinate and try to be selective when buying a new kit. Then this little voice in the back of my head sucks me in and I buy it anyway.  

[Dr. Cranky]

Model Round Up is carrying it for less than 20 dollars.

[Ace-Garageguy]

based on several current topics, i dare say we've become a fickle lot.

 

at this juncture, it begs to be asked: if there is so much wrong with what we're being offered by the major manufacturers, why not just forgo the kits entirely and build strictly from the aftermarket catalog?  that way everyone can choose exactly the part they want / need, and no grumbles about having leftovers which are not true to scale, era, pleasing in proportion, or they'll never use.

Expense? Most kits have a LOT more right than wrong with them, IMHO, and the percentage of not-true-to-scale and otherwise wonky bits is in reality very small.

 

I do think it was something of a mistake to not offer a good dropped I-beam axle in this thing though, as I'd honestly buy a case of them if that bit was included, as would many other period builders. As it is, I'm not in a hurry to get one.

[Michigan Madman]

Chevys are still wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy cheaper to build than fords.

Not by much anymore. Cheap is all Chevys have going for them. They're the Costco brand of hi-po engines.

[rmvw guy]

I like the kit, but I have more kits than I'll build in my lifetime. So I tend to procrastinate and try to be selective when buying a new kit. Then this little voice in the back of my head sucks me in and I buy it anyway.  

Ditto.  I will probably get sucked in by the wheel and tires , and of course the guitar.  

[Casey]

 

I do think it was something of a mistake to not offer a good dropped I-beam axle in this thing though, as I'd honestly buy a case of them if that bit was included, as would many other period builders. As it is, I'm not in a hurry to get one.

 

I think it was a mistake to not go 100% and make the model as true to the 1:1 as realistically possible. I understand why Revell may have made the decision to make this kit 90% accurate, but the incorrect front axle is a puzzling omission. I don't think this kit was ever intended to appease traditional scale rod builders, but rather be an accurate replica of the Rat Roaster, period.

[Ace-Garageguy]

 

....... I don't think this kit was ever intended to appease traditional scale rod builders, but rather be an accurate replica of the Rat Roaster, period.

I'm sure you're correct, but it's only good business to understand ALL of the market segments a model might appeal to, and ignoring the kit as a possible source of period-correct parts for traditional builders in-scale (a trend that is here to stay in 1:1, as the rat-rod thing has about run its course and guys are building NICE period cars...we have a shop full of them) misses the mark. As I said, I have zero interest in building a copy of Stacy David's car, but I'd buy a case of the things to get good styrene axles for not a whole lot more money than buying brittle resin aftermarket....and the rest of the stuff in the box would just sweeten the deal.

 

In the '60s Revell seemed to get the 'parts' thing a little clearer, as the PartsPacks were like having a large, reasonably priced stash of hot-rod bits to draw on. I have no idea if the concept would work today, but there does seem to be a growing numder of builders interested in getting functional and period details correct.

Edited by Ace-Garageguy, 26 January 2013 - 07:37 AM.

[Greg Myers]

Model Round Up is carrying it for less than 20 dollars.

+ shipping = $ 30 +

[Casey]

I'm sure you're correct, but it's only good business to understand ALL of the market segments a model might appeal to, and ignoring the kit as a possible source of period-correct parts for traditional builders in-scale (a trend that is here to stay in 1:1, as the rat-rod thing has about run its course and guys are building NICE period cars...we have a shop full of them) misses the mark. As I said, I have zero interest in building a copy of Stacy David's car, but I'd buy a case of the things to get good styrene axles for not a whole lot more money than buying brittle resin aftermarket....and the rest of the stuff in the box would just sweeten the deal.

 

I think what's needed is a traditional '32 Ford kit (bodystyle?) with a beam front axle, buggy sprung rear suspension, and maybe some narrow Ford steelies, and the tires from the '37 Ford pickup kits? Do I dare suggest a SBC underhood? 

 

In the '60s Revell seemed to get the 'parts' thing a little clearer, as the PartsPacks were like having a large, reasonably priced stash of hot-rod bits to draw on. I have no idea if the concept would work today, but there does seem to be a growing numder of builders interested in getting functional and period details correct.

 

From everything I've heard and read, the last Revell Parts Pack engines did not sell well. They are still abundant and cheap on eBay, and while I'm not really sure how Revell actually produces the parts packs vs. an entire kit, I tend to think it's just easier to run and market/sell an entire kit versus a few parts which have limited appeal to the general public.

 

Maybe once Revell finishes rolling in the profits from the Rat Roaster, a new traditional Deuce will be announced for 2014. 

[Ace-Garageguy]

 

I think what's needed is a traditional '32 Ford kit (bodystyle?) with a beam front axle, buggy sprung rear suspension, and maybe some narrow Ford steelies, and the tires from the '37 Ford pickup kits? Do I dare suggest a SBC underhood? 

 

 

From everything I've heard and read, the last Revell Parts Pack engines did not sell well. They are still abundant and cheap on eBay, and while I'm not really sure how Revell actually produces the parts packs vs. an entire kit, I tend to think it's just easier to run and market/sell an entire kit versus a few parts which have limited appeal to the general public.

 

Maybe once Revell finishes rolling in the profits from the Rat Roaster, a new traditional Deuce will be announced for 2014. 

Revell has produced several very nice versions of the '48 Ford, with substantial tooling changes to make each model (woody, coupe, latest version with fadeaways). Revell currently has very fine tooling for every mainstream bodystyle of '32s. It wouldn't take any more additional tooing to make a traditional-chassis '32 than it took to produce the last-issue '48 Ford.

 

And while the most recent run of engine PartsPacks are still plentiful and cheap, the dragster and roadster chassis kits, the Hemi engine, the Buick nailhead engine, the roadster and dragster accessory kits and bodies, the taillights and bubbletops...all are now rare and selling for stupid money.

 

PS. I volunteer to create digital files of the necessary parts to produce a traditional-chassis '32 that will fit Revell's existing bodies. 100% correct dimensions, guaranteed, taken from real parts currently in the shop. Cheap, relative to what it would probably cost to do it in-house. Anyone have an inside pipeline to Revell's product development guys? References available on request.

Edited by Ace-Garageguy, 26 January 2013 - 08:38 AM.

[Greg Myers]

Got my vote. and I agree.They can do it. We'd love it. I'd buy it.

[Greg Myers]

[MachinistMark]

Not by much anymore. Cheap is all Chevys have going for them. They're the Costco brand of hi-po engines.

Yes. By much.

 

fords are still about 25% more..