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Lets do a 1964 1/2-1973 Mustang CBP to go with the others!


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#21 Olskoolrodder

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Posted 16 November 2011 - 06:57 PM

Oh this is gunna be FUN to watch! Off to a grand start,Brother :D

Edited by Olskoolrodder, 17 November 2011 - 01:19 PM.


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Posted 17 November 2011 - 04:38 AM

Thanks Stephen.

Unfortunately, the cold weather has now hit us and this will be on hold until either:
a) I get an indoor spray booth ( I'm getting serious about that possibility!) or,
B) The warmer weather returns in the spring. Recently tried a couple of outdoor spray projects and I'll have to redo both of them!!!

But I've got some dios to work on , so at least I'll be able to keep warm indoors. Boy, do I envy you guys in those southern climes.......

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Posted 17 November 2011 - 01:26 PM

I don't know how southern it feels today. While this isn't really all that cold,it started at 37 degrees this morning (0630 when I get the kids up and out),and finished off around 34 degrees :wacko:

I don't have indoor spray capability either. What I usually do is spray little bits at a time (really close to the door to run back in fast),bring it in and set it up in the washer room to cure/dry between coats. Well,that's how I did it in the old house,bu it should work here too. IDK how well it would work for someone else,but I've had decent luck (and that's exactly what it is) so far knock on wood. Here's a couple that were painted around January and February in sub 20 degree weather that year...

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It can be done,but great care ust be taken,and much luck is appreciated,LOL! :P

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Posted 18 November 2011 - 07:03 AM

A couple of nice paint jobs Stephen.

I too have had a few successful painting projects done outside in sub zero temps but It's a risky proposition. I've probably stripped more bad ones than achieved anything decent. Now I don't risk it....... I work on interiors, chassis, engines, etc. that can be brush painted inside and leave the body painting until the spring.

That's probably why I have so many unfinished projects stashed away.......... I just keep starting new ones during the winter!!!!

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Posted 18 November 2011 - 09:32 AM

A couple of nice paint jobs Stephen.

That's probably why I have so many unfinished projects stashed away.......... I just keep starting new ones during the winter!!!!



Firstly,thanks (they melted to goo in that house fire though,LOL,pics is all I have of em now).

And yeah,LMBO,that's always been me too :P Now though,we have this unfinishd "closet" up stairs in my daughter's room,that goes almost the widt of the house. By unfinished,I mean only half the floor is covered,insulation visible,no lighting,etc. I may try spraying a little bit up there this winter,at least to see how bad the fumes would leak into her room (door seals pretty dang tightly,you have to really tug to open it),stick me a lamp in there and a fresh cartridge inmy resperator (that I have yetto buy ;) :rolleyes: ) and have at it,LOL!

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 09:29 AM

Back in the '60's and 70's, when I was racing my Mini Cooper 'S' at Mosport near Toronto, the same races were dominated by Camaros and Mustangs, thundering past me at speeds that made my doors shake! But in local club racing, these were not the highly sophisticated GT350R's but regular fastbacks and coupes that had been highly modified and transformed by local owner/drivers, not for monetary rewards.... but just for the sheer thrill of competing with others on an actual 2.5 mile race track.

Safety requirements were horrendously low compared to today's. Basically, anyone with a driver's licence could get a National Competion Licence, by completing three (or five... I can't remember) races as a "novice", while being watched and assessed by a panel of judges. Assuming you didn't do anything ridiculously stupid, you got your competition licence and could then compete with the "big boys" (even in TransAm and the other highly spectated series of the day)....... if you had the money to do it.

Inspection before a race included a check of your tires, pedal pressure of your brakes, sloppiness in you steering, no broken glass but clipped in placed around the edges, headlights either removed or taped, a simple one hoop roll bar and three point safety harness! Drivers were required to wear Nomex underwear and socks, a fireproof driving suit and a Dot standards helmet. If you wanted to add a fire extinguisher or anything else that you thought might help you in a crash... that was up to you! Most of us just met minimum standards!!!! (It's been a while so if I forgot to mention anything, let me know.)

The limited budget guys, who sunk all their weekly paycheck and spare moments into the sport, were usually driving underfunded, slower cars.... but we still had fun competing with each other in our respective classes.

"Sedan" racing was divided into groups by engine displacement:
Group A for sedans over 2litres (not too many competitive models with slightly over 2000 cc engines were built back then so the class was dominated by Detroit steel with V8 engines.... although I do remember one hardy soul who tried to compete with a 4door Rambler with an in-line six!)
Group B for sedans between 1600 cc and 2000 cc
Group C for sedans between 1000 cc and 1599 cc
Group D for sedans up to 999 cc ( My little mini Cooper S with it's 970cc engine was in this group)
You can imagine the speed differential between us and the 5litre Mustangs and Camaros!

At a typical club race weekend, even with a Can Am, Trans Am or Formula 1 main feature, we really low budget local boys would show up for the supporting races with our cars on a single axle open trailer, or trailing our cars behind us on a rigid tow bar, but most of the Group A cars were better prepared, some with sponsorship from local dealerships and service stations.

Mustangs and Camaros were interesting, in that they could be entered in Group A/Sedan racing...... due to the fact that they had four seats..... or Sports Car Production Racing which was more highly competitive with the likes of Ferraris, etc.

Enough of the pre-amble.. hopefully I've set the scene for the background for this build.

This model originated from an original Monogram Shelby GT350 kit that I built back in the 80's. Not satisfied with it as a basic street car, I pulled it apart a few years ago, when I was into a racing nostalgia moment, changed the interior and wheels to more of a racing style, added some decals, but it back in it's display case and forgot about it........ until a couple of weeks ago when I was watching Historic Racing from Laguna Seca and got re-inspired. So out it came again.......

First I disassembled it again, removed the rear glass and substituted a vented rear window from a glue bomb GT350R I picked up at a yard sale for $2. I modified the interior door panel to a flat aluminum panel, with a leather strap to raise the side glass, installed a spare tire inside the rear of the interior, on the folded down rear seat. Added a fire extinguisher, and a safety harness all as I vaguely remember from the sixties.

The engine was detailed with plug wires, etc. and battery cables and an overflow hose added to the radiator cap. An oil cooler also added to the front grille area. The exterior remained pretty much as originally built except for the modified front lower valance that I had previously built from balsa wood.

So here are the finished progress pictures as updated. (Remember... this is not supposed to be a Shelby Mustang, but a basic 289 cu. in. 1966 Mustang fastback that has been modified, updated and "Shelbyized" by it's owner/driver to compete in Group A Sedan club races on a relatively low budget.

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 09:35 AM

WOW,it looks GREAT!!! :D I really enjoyed reading the back-story too,a bit of history I didn't know any details of,I appreciate the read :)

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 11:02 AM

Thanks Stephen.... glad you enjoyed it. It wasn't until I posted it, that I realized I'd almost written a short story!

Tony

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 07:59 PM

Olskool, you should of reminded me that you started this thread, there are a few stangs from this era that I want to do, one of them is Eleanor from the remake of gone in 60, just not sure how I am going to do the body. I know there is a transkit but I have not been able to find any. And then in the 2008 Knight rider KITT transformed into a 69 mach 1 .

Edit- I order the 69 mustang kit, I can join this CBP now

Edited by martinfan5, 25 November 2011 - 08:46 PM.


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Posted 27 November 2011 - 01:00 AM

i"ll chime in with a new project if I may. I have fox body and sn95 projects on the forum, and wanted to start a 1st gen to post to this thread. anyway, it's the scale productions 1967 Eleanor GT500 transkit. I happen to find this online after looking for a while and am gonna dive in finally. of course the donor kit is the amt 1967 GT350 kit. also have been scratchbuilding right off the bat. just started working on the chassis, have a drop in style fuel cell with sump built, and almost done with a heidt's style 4 link rear suspension, just gotta add the panhard bar and clean up the brackets. added subframe connectors, and will using the front mustang II/ ifs suspension from the 32 phantom vicki kit. here's pics as of now.
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Posted 27 November 2011 - 01:03 AM

and sorry to rub the eleanor kit in your face martinfan, i got lucky and found one online.

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Posted 27 November 2011 - 05:15 AM

That's gunna be killer!

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Posted 27 November 2011 - 06:08 AM

I'd like to participate. Started this one and has kinda stalled. This is a 70 Mustang Mach I kit and will try and make her into the # 15 Parnelli Jones Trans Am car.
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Posted 27 November 2011 - 08:56 AM

I've got a few to build, I'll have to check when I get home. What about the 63 concept?

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Posted 27 November 2011 - 08:56 PM

Well looks like I will cross doing the Eleanor kit off the want to do list, I did a little research and found the transkit that was available for awhile, but with the $100 price tag, little more then i want to spend

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Posted 27 November 2011 - 10:52 PM

I'll join this one too - I have a '64 1/2 convertible to do and a Shelby GT350.

I have also painted the body of a Lindberg '63 Mustang II concept - or is that too early?

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 09:42 AM

Sweet,welcome aboard! And,I don't mind the concept car if no one else does :)

Jonathan: Man,that sucks (price too dang high),I was looking forward to seeing it too :(

Dogfish: That's gunna be friggin' AWESOME!!! :D

Edited by Olskoolrodder, 29 November 2011 - 07:36 AM.


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Posted 29 November 2011 - 07:05 PM

Yea thats a lot more then I want to spend on a resin kit, or any kit really thats a car.

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 02:15 AM

..or any kit I intend to build,thereby meaning I might screw it up (me speaking about me here),LOL! :lol:

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 11:07 AM

..or any kit I intend to build,thereby meaning I might screw it up (me speaking about me here),LOL! :lol:

I agree with you , to make a point, for some reason every time I get a tamiya kit, or a kit along those lines, I screw it because I get nervous that I will mess up a some expensive kit.

I messed up my fujimi F430 kit already

Look what UPS left for me
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