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#161 Detroit Dave

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 08:30 AM

Thats some mighty impressive work there mate.

I'm still tying to find the courage to start a plastic kit.

Kudos and regards.

Dave.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 01:33 AM

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 06:04 AM

This is very impressive work!!! WOW!!!!! Roy

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 11:51 AM

Thank you all for the kind comments, I'm working at the rear yet, building some stuff for the rear neway leafs. After I get the last axle housing built, I can then start to aline stuff and start putting stuff togother. I have alot of reff photos saved so I can see things from different angles and get the general idea of it all. My friend Mark knows alot about this kind of rig as well as Mack's is most favorite rigs and most of what he talks about when he visit's me. 



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Posted 02 December 2012 - 04:19 PM

Hi you all, well still getting the hang of soldiering yet, that last night when I was getting ready to solder these things togother, my wife entered the room and started talking to me (LOL) that I guess I over heated the stuff and also added too much solder as well. 

 

Anyways I went back we did some new neway rear leafs for the project here. I still have the last set to go yet, I have the already cut out just need soldered togother is all. 

 

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Edited by zerodude, 02 December 2012 - 04:20 PM.


#166 M0par Jim

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Posted 02 December 2012 - 04:27 PM

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#167 M0par Jim

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Posted 02 December 2012 - 04:34 PM

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#168 Randy D

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 01:55 PM

Hi Jim,   Good progress you are making on this!!   looking foward to more updates.

 

 

                       Randy



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Posted 05 December 2012 - 09:51 PM

Ok, I have to say this

In my view you are using far far to much solder on this, and is certainly going to bite you later on

there is absolutely no need to use as much as you have on the frame or suspension parts

solder works by creating a bond between two surfaces, much like glue, and should be used in the same way as glue, but with the use of heat

It is very easy to solder, and to use small amounts is far better than just heating and feeding the solder into the joint till it runs out the other side, this is just

messy, so with that said, try this get rid of the flux solder, it is far to big for what you are doing, instead use a flux liquid, plus a plain solder, cut your self small bits of it and 

have handy on the bench, with a pin to pick them up, flux with the liquid, then heat till the part just starts to change colour, then add the solder, and watch it being drawn to

the heat, this is a better way to produce clean even solder joints, use binding wire to hold the parts in position while this happens, but all parts MUST have a tight fit

The diff looks as if you have carved it out of solder, the axle housings should have been made from the square tube and the smaller tube soldered inside it with the housing made the same way, slowly building up the shape, to do this requires using 2-3 different melt temp solders, using the highest temp to lowest, as it uses less heat to melt the other



#170 M0par Jim

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 10:39 AM

Ok, I have to say this

In my view you are using far far to much solder on this, and is certainly going to bite you later on

there is absolutely no need to use as much as you have on the frame or suspension parts

solder works by creating a bond between two surfaces, much like glue, and should be used in the same way as glue, but with the use of heat

It is very easy to solder, and to use small amounts is far better than just heating and feeding the solder into the joint till it runs out the other side, this is just

messy, so with that said, try this get rid of the flux solder, it is far to big for what you are doing, instead use a flux liquid, plus a plain solder, cut your self small bits of it and 

have handy on the bench, with a pin to pick them up, flux with the liquid, then heat till the part just starts to change colour, then add the solder, and watch it being drawn to

the heat, this is a better way to produce clean even solder joints, use binding wire to hold the parts in position while this happens, but all parts MUST have a tight fit

The diff looks as if you have carved it out of solder, the axle housings should have been made from the square tube and the smaller tube soldered inside it with the housing made the same way, slowly building up the shape, to do this requires using 2-3 different melt temp solders, using the highest temp to lowest, as it uses less heat to melt the other

 

Hi Tony, again thank you for your input on this and also for the soldering tips as well. At this time I am using 4 different types of solder sizes and 4 different toruches as well of different types too. Like I said before my friend has alot of money tied up into the parts that he had bought and I don't want to see the fame fall apart at all. So I'm going over kill on it to make sure it has it's very very best max secure holds. 

 

Now about the axle housing, if you would look more close, you would have noyice something, and I even posted photos of it as well afew photos of it up and yet you speak about it as well. I did use square tubing! then round tubing inside it, it's shown in the photos all the way down through the photos. At all the photos of how the stuff was made. 

 

Plus for the record you all, I'm not going for a model type fill looking here build, my friend wanted the model to fill real as well and much as possible as well, and to have a show look and also worked used look as well, as the real truck is show and is also used to haul stuff back and forth as well to companys. Plus my friend doesn't want this model to fall apart either. 

 

This model project, is suppose to have.

 

1) looks like a model, but not though.

2) 1/24 scale weight of the real truck. 

3) working and funcion lights as well like a real truck has. 


Edited by zerodude, 06 December 2012 - 10:41 AM.


#171 M0par Jim

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 10:45 AM

I will have more update progress photos tonight. Been working on the rear axle housing mounts and afew other things.

 

Plus to those of you that have commented, thanks! Even to Tony as well for his input. 


Edited by zerodude, 06 December 2012 - 10:48 AM.


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Posted 06 December 2012 - 12:00 PM

 

 Like I said before my friend has alot of money tied up into the parts that he had bought and I don't want to see the fame fall apart at all. So I'm going over kill on it to make sure it has it's very very best max secure holds. 

 

Now about the axle housing, if you would look more close, you would have noyice something, and I even posted photos of it as well afew photos of it up and yet you speak about it as well. I did use square tubing! then round tubing inside it, it's shown in the photos all the way down through the photos. At all the photos of how the stuff was made. 

 

 

Going over kill on the solder WILL NOT make the joint stronger, the correct prep and technique makes the bond stronger, if you wanted a strong bond that will NOT break, then it should have been silver soldered

 

I can see exactly how the diff has been made, it is just not the way I would have done it, but your build, and your friends money, to get a show truck finish is going to require a huge amount of work on the frame cleaning it up for paint that more than likely wont stick



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Posted 06 December 2012 - 12:34 PM

 

Going over kill on the solder WILL NOT make the joint stronger, the correct prep and technique makes the bond stronger, if you wanted a strong bond that will NOT break, then it should have been silver soldered

 

I can see exactly how the diff has been made, it is just not the way I would have done it, but your build, and your friends money, to get a show truck finish is going to require a huge amount of work on the frame cleaning it up for paint that more than likely wont stick

 

Just for the record here, the brass an copper I bought, NOT my friend. I'm not going to agrue with you, friend. The thing here and the issue is, the way I'm doing things and the way you do things is what is making the issue here. Because in the 2nd part above you clear as day stated it yourself "I can see exactly how the diff has been made, it is just not the way I would have done it" is said by you. So it's not done the way you would have done it, but I bet there is alot of people of this forum that does stuff there own way a way that is different then you do as well. We all are different and do things in different ways, that is what maks us well "us". 

 

Plus again for the record, which you stated "to get a show truck finish is going to require a huge amount of work on the frame cleaning it up for paint that more than likely wont stick" which I also stated before and even in afew replys above that this is not going to be a show truck at all but a in between truck of a "used" truck and also in a way a "show" truck. and To get the finish that my friend and I are going for will not be that hard. 

 

Plus so you all know, I will be using afew different kinds of paints on this project.. auto paint, model car paint, and one other kind of paint as well that sticks very very good to metal and also brass and copper as I have been testing out paints for on this stuff as I know paint plastics stuff is one thing and paint metal stuff is another LOL.



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Posted 06 December 2012 - 01:16 PM

Hi Jim,   One of the unpleasant things about posting your work on these forums is having to waste modelling time when dealing with somebody like that.  

 

     So for the many peolple who are enjoying your build,  carry on :D  :D   

 

      Randy



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Posted 13 December 2012 - 08:30 PM

Tony, your wasting time talking to this - er - ah - (person), he seems to have a "major problem" with learning anything, no-matter what you, or anybody else might tell him. 

 

He seems to know it all, so it might be better to just leave him alone, it's like poking a snake with a stick, each time you do it, he rears his ugly head again with more terrible photo's. Please, please ------------ NO MORE.

 

 

randy d , before criticising anybody, how about you stir what-ever grey cells you got left into action,  and at least check out the other persons capabilities, before opening your silly  gob.



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Posted 14 December 2012 - 01:02 AM

Tony, your wasting time talking to this - er - ah - (person), he seems to have a "major problem" with learning anything, no-matter what you, or anybody else might tell him. 

 

He seems to know it all, so it might be better to just leave him alone, it's like poking a snake with a stick, each time you do it, he rears his ugly head again with more terrible photo's. Please, please ------------ NO MORE.

 

 

randy d , before criticising anybody, how about you stir what-ever grey cells you got left into action,  and at least check out the other persons capabilities, before opening your silly  gob.

 

Mardtrp

 

But appears I was the only one ready to offer any help.......

 

Hi Jim,   One of the unpleasant things about posting your work on these forums is having to waste modelling time when dealing with somebody like that.  

 

     So for the many peolple who are enjoying your build,  carry on :D  :D   

 

      Randy

 

Randy

 

I find it pretty offensive that you make a lame comment like this, when the only object of my posts is to offer advise from what I have learnt, cause as Jim has stated "he is learning"

A person with your talent, one would have thought you may have offered some as well, but appears you are to happy stroking your ego, and wasting modelling time.........



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Posted 15 December 2012 - 06:07 AM

i applaud the things you do all by yourself.  not easy to do..



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Posted 15 December 2012 - 05:19 PM

 

 

Hi Tony, again thank you for your input on this and also for the soldering tips as well. At this time I am using 4 different types of solder sizes and 4 different toruches as well of different types too. Like I said before my friend has alot of money tied up into the parts that he had bought and I don't want to see the fame fall apart at all. So I'm going over kill on it to make sure it has it's very very best max secure holds. 

 

Now about the axle housing, if you would look more close, you would have noyice something, and I even posted photos of it as well afew photos of it up and yet you speak about it as well. I did use square tubing! then round tubing inside it, it's shown in the photos all the way down through the photos. At all the photos of how the stuff was made. 

 

Plus for the record you all, I'm not going for a model type fill looking here build, my friend wanted the model to fill real as well and much as possible as well, and to have a show look and also worked used look as well, as the real truck is show and is also used to haul stuff back and forth as well to companys. Plus my friend doesn't want this model to fall apart either. 

 

This model project, is suppose to have.

 

1) looks like a model, but not though.

2) 1/24 scale weight of the real truck. 

3) working and funcion lights as well like a real truck has. 

 

 

Average weight of a real Mack Superliner or most any other model tractor is approximately 17,000 pounds.

 

Have fun moving around 708 pounds of model!!!!


Edited by highway, 15 December 2012 - 05:21 PM.


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Posted 15 December 2012 - 05:54 PM

Wow Guys this topic has gone way off point! Tony, You need to brush up on your constructive criticism skills such as your choice of wording. Myself along with many others would precieve some of your comments offensive. There are better ways to offer tips and help by choosing your wording correctly.Honestly I would not ever go to the lenghts and meausures Jim has done on this build however I applaude him for being a fellow modeler and thinking out side of the box and making a creative build that he and his freind seem to enjoy along with many of us here following. Mardtrp with all do respect please dont stir the pot and make these threads into trash talking debates. Lets all get back on point and move on.

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 07:39 AM

^^LIKE^^   :oP