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#21 cavejohnson

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 07:25 PM

I've had the same issues with some of AMTs kits. Some of them work really well like the K-123 and the Road Boss, But the White Freightliner wasn't so hot. The cab never came together right and the finish of some of the chromed parts was sub standard. I didn't really want the Lonestar because I Think they're kind of ugly, after some of these comments though, I really don't want it now!

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 07:34 PM

This what happens when Pick Up, SUV and car model builders try and tackle real trucks. When i see posts saying "I'm not a truck builder, but..." I expect things like this. Maybe 300 pieces is too much for you.



I totally agree. The first model I ever built was the Australian Western Star when I was 13, It wasn't easy, but I stuck with and it turned out great! Model cars are a lot easier than trucks, not as many parts nor details. I always suggest that people start with a Revell kit like the Aerodyne KW or the Pete 359, they're great ways to start.

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 07:46 PM

interesting that you say that, because i'm not really much of a truck builder but i have done a few that turned out pretty nicely. what i get out of your statement is that you think you are better than the "Pick Up, SUV and car model builders" because you are a truck builder?

I got the same thing from what he said too

if you think cars are so much easier, let's see how you do with a Fujimi Enthusiast kit.

Those kits will make even a very experienced modeler use some four letter words and want to smash it into pieces

I will agree that I was unhappy with the instruction sheet, and hope that the same style instruction sheet is not in the prostar or the trailer kits. Sure there were some fit issues, but they really are not that bad. it really is a very nice kit.

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 08:02 PM

I never said they were ALL easier. I did a Fujimi Ferrari Testarossa and will admit it was very difficult. Heck, right now I'm looking for a Fujimi F40 because they're challenge but quite fun! But most of the people I know who build models try to go from a 50 part Ford Mustang to a 300 part Revell Germany Peterbilt.For some it 's easy, for others it's difficult.

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 08:05 PM

This what happens when Pick Up, SUV and car model builders try and tackle real trucks. When i see posts saying "I'm not a truck builder, but..." I expect things like this. Maybe 300 pieces is too much for you.


Well chuck he does have ligitement complaints. I don't think its right for you to put down any builders car or truck. How many lonestars have you built? In fact I've seen a lot of "car" guys build there first truck and they blow mine outa the water. I think gary just may have had a minor bad experiance but is gonna jump back on board and handle it just fine. Maybe you should be a lil more encouraging and offer some advice, ya know the more truck modelers we get , the more trucks we might get to see hit the shelves. Next time you think about bashing a "car" guy building trucks take a look at one of doubled's builds

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 08:14 PM

Or an Accurate Miniatures McLaren

I'm not being critical of any one's building skills.....but I have yet to have a model beat me.
Some can be difficult.....some easy.....but a builder can over come issues that an assembler can't.
I built a bunch of McLarens for Accurate Miniatures. Tough builds but if I can most any one can.
It does take patience and some past experience. But it's far from 'unbuildable' as it is labeled often.
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After a few McLarens the Vette was a breeze.
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My issue here is I have built 10-15 Moebius kits...cars, Sci Fi, Figures....all were fantastic. How they messed up this bad on ONE kit
does make me wonder. I did not plan on buying it but now I may have to just to see for myself.
The current issue of SAE and a few online reviews don't mention any of these issues either......so something
strange is going on here...........

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 08:22 PM

The only fit issue I had and know of is the hinge location on the hood needs to be moved back or forward ( cant remember), but other then that, the only other fit issue I had with mine was the side vent windows, and the air cleaner hose's. Other then that no other problems that I can remember

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 08:39 PM

Only issue I've had is that the headlamp reflectors seem to want to mount just a little bit lower than they should. Only the third semi I have built, and so far no serious issues. Yeah, the instruction diagrams could be better, but nothing on it seems to tough to figure out.

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 09:14 PM

You guys are right frustration was what happen the fact I spent time in this kit painted had a issue stripped repainted. And had a another issue come up heck I thought from the way it was molded the tabs on bottom of cab happen to be part of the model.
Again could a better set of instructions made my issues less of it ??? I think so.
Yea I agree it's a sweet looking model. But ok the hood hinge mount I test fitted 30 times till I got it too where I think it's right. But because I wasn't sure I'm not sure if was right in the end. And with trying to get things right with that I end up braking my cab air bags so the model is just a box of great parts I trier re glueing but due to the wieight of the kit it's not holding
Im sorry this post turned into a war of sorts for a moment that wasnt my intention

I'm going to in the end buy me another kit And do it again I just wish I didn't loose close to 70 bucks in the end trying to figure out what I couldn't be told.
Also a issue I had was the list on painting that's the dumbest thing I've ever scene Great idea on using diffrent paint companies but the way it was grouped was a odd idea to me

I think alot of my hatread and anger for this kit snow balled right from the start and I did stop several times only to be slapped again buy another issue Look I've mabe my feed truck and hopper trailer from scratch and it wasn't as bad as it was with the lonestar. So yeah I think on e it started to head south it all went south so those who offered some help and confidence thanks I'm hopping maybe just maybe möbius will be willing to work out a great price on a kit ( with two twins on the way it's my only hope) I wanna make a Great model of a new tractor and in the end and my option this is a great truck to start with enough said!!!!

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 11:11 PM

The only fit issue I had and know of is the hinge location on the hood needs to be moved back or forward ( cant remember), but other then that, the only other fit issue I had with mine was the side vent windows, and the air cleaner hose's. Other then that no other problems that I can remember

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That looks great in white!

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Posted 08 January 2012 - 02:04 AM

Well, some issues mentioned I feel to react.

First of all: Let's have some respect for one-another's building of models. Cars, Trucks, trains what ever. Everyone does a great job for them self. I personally have nothing with trains, plains or military but like to see beautiful models.

Like some of you mention. The Lonestar is a lovely model for most of the truck builders. Here in Europe the reissues of Italeri and Revell or ok but really a lot of the same. Just a new decal does not make a new kit. The way the curb kits of Italeri were are not what I'm looking for. For that reason I bought two lonestars to convert one into a daycab. The model is with engine and everything which I like very much. I did not start with it jet but am looking forward to.
I just finished a Freightliner DD by AMT and this is also a difficult kit as for fitting parts. I'm also working on a KW T600 by Revell, talking about a bad fitting kit.... I have already had several times the idea of putting it in the bin. Now I have decided to use the chassis for a Resin conversion kit an just trough the cab and sleeper away. The kit is already on my workbench for over a year and I just can't seem to finish it.
My idea is to give Moebius some positive feedback to improve their future projects. I welcome them and will also buy the Prostar. The trailer might be mine but I'm not sure about that. I hope you, Gary, will finish this model as you want it. I will look forward to some photo's of itAnd remember, not al the build must have price-winning qualities.

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Edited by Hessel Hemstra, 08 January 2012 - 02:06 AM.


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Posted 08 January 2012 - 04:33 AM

I have built this kit and agree with Garys first post ,this kit is trash , maybe the test builders of this kit should have noticed and reported the problems before it went into production, every point where the chrome parts are attached to the tree is where you can see it when its finished , the aircleaners are split in half right on the outside, fit ussues everywhere I raised the front bumper about a 1/8" and moved it back with the hinge about the same, shaved off the cowl where the hood sits about a 1/8" also so the hood would sit down straight and the engine is missing the intake side of the turbo these are just some of the things I noticed while building it, I just cant understand how it got into production with all these problems that would have been easy to fix before it ended up in our hands,

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Posted 08 January 2012 - 05:01 AM

This what happens when Pick Up, SUV and car model builders try and tackle real trucks. When i see posts saying "I'm not a truck builder, but..." I expect things like this. Maybe 300 pieces is too much for you.


Wow, that is quite a generalising and short-sighted statement!

I have yet to build a truck, but I have 3 laying around and I am not worried to tackle them. What does partscount has to do with being able to build a car or truck?

Edited by The Creative Explorer, 08 January 2012 - 05:05 AM.


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Posted 08 January 2012 - 05:04 AM

Wow, I've been intending to buy this kit when I have some spare cash,.........but now I'm on the fence. When it first came out there was nothing but praise for the kit, and now its getting slammed worse than any kit I've seen ? Maybe cause people at first were just looking it over, and now they are getting around to building it ? Maybe some are expecting too much from this kit ? I guess for now I'll sit on the fence for a little longer.

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Posted 08 January 2012 - 08:58 AM

Once I vet my computer back maybe can't do much from iPhone truth is it's strip down as a parts bin now I'm going to at somePoint get another and do a day cab with a feed trailer like I did for tri axle feed truck. I think I just need time away from this hobby. Rather this truck!!
So once I get my head strait I'll send some pics of a great truck because I'll know what to expect and what to adjust as I go !!!

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Posted 08 January 2012 - 09:39 AM

I think its a good kit, mine looks ok. BUT YOU HAVE TO TAKE YOUR TIME. test fit parts first.. if you rush the kit you will be sorry... :(

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Posted 08 January 2012 - 01:11 PM

After building virtually every model truck marketed in the last 40+ years I've yet to find one that didn't have some issues.The Mobieus Lonestar is a fine kit and I salute Dave and Moebius for taking a chance on it.I do however consider it to be a medium to difficult skill level kit. I suggest taking your time and being patient and any one can achieve a satisfactory result. I have found sometimes after 40+ years of model building you just have to put it back on the shelf and walk away or do something else for a while. The same problems some found in building the Lonestar you find in all kits be they AMT,Ertl,Revell or Italari. I find problem solving is much a part of modeling as creativity, painting etc. As far as the arguement about different types of modeling each one has challenges it depends on what you like. I've tried cars,planes milatary etc.they all have their own quirks. I build trucks because that's what I like.

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Posted 08 January 2012 - 01:20 PM

first put the instuctions in the trash get some reff pics and then start..the only issue i had was hood fit..i shaved the cab mounts and file the hood hindge.. final product not bad.Posted ImagePosted Image

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Posted 08 January 2012 - 01:32 PM

I'm surprised to see such a negative response to this kit, given how well Moebius has done with their new Hornet kit.

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Posted 08 January 2012 - 01:50 PM

I've been working on the Lonestar for a while. I have the Day Cab from Dave that I'm using. The instructions are the worse I've seen, I have a few parts that I do not know where they go. Some parts don't even have numbers on the tree's. After alot of work and moving things it's coming along. I also like how they tell you to paint the parts on the tree and then tell you to test fit the part, too many times did I have to paint a part. I'm going to have to learn about posting pictures.

I've been waiting to see if anyone would complain about one missing part. I've also not seen it in any of the photo's that have been posted. Question to everyone that has built the Lonestar. I see the Interior has a Clutch, but where is the Floor Shift? I can't find one?