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#1 dragcavy

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Posted 03 April 2012 - 05:01 PM

does anyone have any good photos of the aa dragster that MPC put out some time back for reference material. Also, Ive seen many scratch make their oown frames for dragsters, pro mods, etc. Can someone tell me as how you guys are going about a good fit between joints Are you creating a coping on the end or are u just letting the liqid cement melt the edge?

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Posted 03 April 2012 - 06:14 PM

I was going to build the Ramchargers dragster myself until 1320 released a die-cast one which I was able to pickup.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 12:00 PM

These are fron July 1965 Rodding & Restyling Magazine.

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 06:32 PM

Good luck on the Ramchargers build. I did one several years ago. I modified the existing chassis. Yes, you need to fish mouth the ends with a rat tail jewelers file. That and some liquid cement and you will have a good bond.

As you can see from Rogers pics, you will have to cut off the rear cowl to get the correct look. The art on the MPC box is of a long nose dragster. The car in the kit is actually of a shorter earlier version of their dragster. I wish I had found Roger's pics when I was doing my build. My pics are below, I really struggled with figuring out the rear of the car. Also note the injector scoop. Different from the kit. The kits moulded in front axel weights are also not on the real car.

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 09:34 AM

wondering if there is anyone who would have a casting or spare of the 4 butterfly blower cap seen in the photos above. I believe you can find that blower cap from the johan olds 442 funny car kit.

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 10:11 AM

Comp Resin sells the Crower four butterfly injector.

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 04:12 AM

well im hoping someone can help. Ive tried to reference photos and cant seem to find anything that can help. does anyone know how the fuel lines were run from the pump to the carbs in this early aa dragster?

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 03:00 PM

Ok Guys be kind, I'm no artist...that said in 1965 fuel systems were very simple, it was'nt until the 'Surfers' that fuel systems got interesting. Ramchargers ran a Hilborn Injector and Pump. The Injector had 8 Nozzels, four each side. the Barrel valve/fuel block was mounted to the right side of the injector. the diagram is the injector from the bottom. The 1/8 inch I.D. black braided fuel lines would run from the fuel block to these 8 nozzels. 4 probably from the inside of the fuel block and 4 from the rear. The Main fuel line probably 3/8 inch I.D. would have ran from the front or the bottom of the fuel block. This line would have also been black braided line. The fuel line from to the inlet of the fuel pump would also have been 3/8 inch I.D. The fuel shutoff could have been on the front of the pump or placed between the pump and the fuel inlet. Confused??? I hope the diagrams help you can contact me directly if you want to.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 03:03 PM

sorry forgot diagrams

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 03:56 PM

thanks a bunch. This will get things movin now. Ive been thru about 50-75 photos of other cars from google to cracklefest videos and you never really get a idea since some are updated nostalgias and some ran a completely different setup.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 05:35 PM

here's a pic of some of the progress. It may not look like much but all the linkage has been remade, working on new exhaust from brass tubing, detailed motor(just waiting on blower cap, and scratched the front axle.Posted Image

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 05:37 PM

Posted Imagehere is a better look at the pulleys i cast.

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 12:59 AM

I love it...It looks great. how did you cast the pullys?

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 01:08 AM

awhile back i purchased some pulleys milled from alumunium. Since these are good parts to have at any time i used Alumilite mold material then once cured use Smooth Cast resin. That stuff works great and has just the right curing time if you are like me and want a quality part in a short amount of time. The only word of caution is that the wall thickness is very thin so pulling the parts out is a little tedious. If you dont wait till fully dry or pull parts out on an angle it tends to distort the pulley especially the one that you see on the bottom of the motor.

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 12:28 PM

I've had some wheels I've wanted to cast but not had the courage to tackle it as yet. I dont get a lot of build time either, didnt finish a model last year and only finished one the year before. My list of builds is really long. One other thing about the Ramcharger car... the stripes were candy red but the Lettering was regular red, so it you paint the red stripes candy and use decals for lettering the car will be pretty accurate, but it may look more uniform if decals are used for both stripes and lettering.

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 02:38 PM

Casting wheels is a little more tedious since you will have to create a two part mold. I'm learning
as I go myself

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 09:02 PM

Darren,

Looks like you are taking this full tilt. Great work so far. Some Photo etched front wheels are in order. You can get them from MAS or Herb Deeks. Here is a link to how they look. Keep going , you are doing great. I think you will better my efforts.

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 01:34 PM

thanks scott, yea wheels are on order from MAS and just received cast parts from comp resins. Ive been kicking around the idea of a driver in the cocpit. Something to really tie it all together. There isnt as much going on in this build as far as detail just because things were less complex ie fuel system delivery and etc. Just a nice clean build of a nostalgia.

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Posted 26 April 2012 - 01:13 PM

Darren, any progress this weekend ?

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 11:29 AM

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