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#1 rel14

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 02:09 PM

I found at radio shack,, 35 gauge wire,, comes in red, black, yellow,, its perfect for 1/24 scale plug wire


Edited by rel14, 10 February 2013 - 03:48 PM.


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Posted 09 February 2013 - 10:48 PM

You can also get the white wrapping wire from there and use a Sharpie to make it any color you want.



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Posted 10 February 2013 - 02:00 AM

.035" seems a little large to me. (.035" x 24 = .840")

 

.84375 is 27/32"

 

Most high performance plug wires are 8mm which is equal to only 5/16" (10/32") which divided by 24 is only .013"

 

Just sayin'.  :)



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Posted 10 February 2013 - 05:10 AM

.035" seems a little large to me. (.035" x 24 = .840")

 

.84375 is 27/32"

 

Most high performance plug wires are 8mm which is equal to only 5/16" (10/32") which divided by 24 is only .013"

 

Just sayin'.  :)

He's absolutely right. I personally think .035" plug wires look like sausages. That's more than 3/4 inch thick in 1/25 scale. Mmmmm...sausages.... :lol:



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Posted 10 February 2013 - 07:58 AM

http://www.tcsdcc.co... gauge wire.htm

 

36 gauge would scale out right... the 30 gauge I normally would use scales out to 16.5mm. A little bit big, close to double the size of a 8.8mm 1:1 wire



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Posted 10 February 2013 - 08:58 AM

This engine was done with some armature wire that I found at Radio Shack. It's .016" which is also a little too large but doesn't look all that bad.

 

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On this one I used Detail Master ignition wire which measures .015" and is closer to scale.

 

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But I wouldn't use anything larger than either of these two.



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Posted 10 February 2013 - 09:06 AM

Maybe he meant 35 gauge instead of .035?



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Posted 10 February 2013 - 02:25 PM

I have used the regular DM wire before. It most likely scales out right, but it looks thin visually (thinner than thread). I think part of the job is scaling close and fooling the minds eye.



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Posted 11 February 2013 - 03:20 AM

I have used the regular DM wire before. It most likely scales out right, but it looks thin visually (thinner than thread). I think part of the job is scaling close and fooling the minds eye.

 

That's a good point. There are many times when something that is in correct scale size still doesn't "look" right. Sometimes dimensions and proportions just don't scale down. Like I said above, even though the Detail Master wires are slightly oversize, I think they look "right".

 

However if you look at any photo of a 1:1 scale engine the plug wires don't usually dominate the view like some model plug wires do.



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Posted 11 February 2013 - 04:50 AM

 

 

.......However if you look at any photo of a 1:1 scale engine the plug wires don't usually dominate the view like some model plug wires do.

The ones that look like sausages?



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Posted 11 February 2013 - 12:22 PM

The ones that look like sausages?

 Or heater hoses!  :lol:



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Posted 25 February 2013 - 03:48 PM

Maybe he meant 35 gauge instead of .035?

Yes, the ga. number is not thousanths of an inch.



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Posted 26 February 2013 - 04:15 AM

this chart indicates #35 wire is .0056" diameter.

 

 

someone who is good at mathamagics - please check logic!

 

 

 

http://www.coastelto...rsion_chart.htm

 

 

 

i deleted the arithmetic so no one else would get balled up!

 

Drew - nice rails. sorry, got lost in the numbers........


Edited by southpier, 26 February 2013 - 09:11 AM.


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Posted 26 February 2013 - 05:29 AM

That's the hard way around, and incorrect. .0056" (actual measurement) X 24 = .1344 in full scale. WAY too small.

 

REAL, normal full-scale plug wires are about 8mm (high performence,heavily-insulated racing wire is fatter) or about .315". To get that in 1/24 scale, divide .315 by 24. You get .013".  Use .013" diameter wire, which is 27 or 28 gage wire.

 

OR, the BEST STUFF I'VE EVER FOUND for production-car PLUG WIRES:

 

Econoflex Craft & Beading wire. .014" diameter, stainless steel, nylon coated in many colors, forms great and holds its shape, available at Hobby Lobby, Michaeis, etc. 30 FEET of the stuff for $3.47.


Edited by Ace-Garageguy, 26 February 2013 - 05:43 AM.


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Posted 26 February 2013 - 07:32 AM

harumph!

 

so if i have a "full scale" decimal, how do i get back to scale inches (let's use 1/24th)?

 

i only ask here because i think it's something which others may benefit, and not use it so often it's at the forefront of their thinking. i know i don't.

 

thanks



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Posted 26 February 2013 - 07:53 AM

Well, if something is .5" (one-half inch) in full-scale, it will be .5 scale-inches in whatever scale you're in.

 

To say it another way, if something is .5" in full-scale, you DIVIDE .5" by whatever scale you're in to get the ACTUAL measurement. Something measuring .5 inches in full-scale, divided by 24 (for 1/24 scale) will give you an ACTUAL measurement of .021", which is .5 SCALE inches in 1/24.

 

I think a lot of folks may be overthinking this and making it more difficult than it is.

 

Going the other way, if you measure a piece of something on a model with your caliper and it is, say an ACTUAL .015", all you do to get back to scale-inches is MULTIPLY by the denominator of the scale you're working in. Our example: you measure something and it's .015". Multiply that by 24 (for 1/24 scale) and you get .36 SCALE inches, which is also .36 inches in FULL-SCALE (close enough to 3/8 of an inch in FULL scale).



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Posted 26 February 2013 - 08:16 AM

That's the hard way around, and incorrect. .0056" (actual measurement) X 24 = .1344 in full scale. WAY too small.

 

REAL, normal full-scale plug wires are about 8mm (high performence,heavily-insulated racing wire is fatter) or about .315". To get that in 1/24 scale, divide .315 by 24. You get .013".  Use .013" diameter wire, which is 27 or 28 gage wire.

 

OR, the BEST STUFF I'VE EVER FOUND for production-car PLUG WIRES:

 

Econoflex Craft & Beading wire. .014" diameter, stainless steel, nylon coated in many colors, forms great and holds its shape, available at Hobby Lobby, Michaeis, etc. 30 FEET of the stuff for $3.47.

The gauge size is for the wire itself, not including the insulation, so, the O.D. of the wire with insulation will be larger than .0056". But, it still may be too thin for plug wires.



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Posted 26 February 2013 - 08:25 AM

The gauge size is for the wire itself, not including the insulation, so, the O.D. of the wire with insulation will be larger than .0056". But, it still may be too thin for plug wires.

Yes, the wire gage I mention is for BARE wire, which is why I went to the trouble to explain how to convert ACTUAL MEASUREMENTS  to scale.

 

There is no substitute for MEASURING and UNDERSTANDING. Unless you're using BARE WIRE, the wire-gage is of no help at all. MEASURE.

 

The Econoflex O.D. MEASURES .014", which is the number you need to know....THE ACTUAL O.D., including whatever coating or insulation is present.


Edited by Ace-Garageguy, 26 February 2013 - 08:28 AM.


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Posted 26 February 2013 - 08:49 AM

thanks for the information. "overthinking" may be the key!

 

this chart has a bunch of sizes, inches & millimeters, and specifically notes 'bare wire diameter'.

 

http://www.bulkwire.com/wiregauge.asp



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Posted 30 March 2013 - 07:52 AM

Last week at Michaels I found in the beading section wire that is about the same size as Detail Master's race car ignition wire. It feels and works the same as the Detail Master wire.  It is called "bead landing" stringing wire.  It is 26 gauge, black and comes in 30 yard packs.  It sells for $3.49 for each pack and with the 50% off coupon it is an even better deal!