Lets see some "phantoms", cars that never ran or were submitted but never used for cup racing.....
Posted 06 May 2012 - 08:34 AM
I've got the Little CeasarsLincoln MKIII and also the BoJangles Cougar from the 90's in resin, but those are still in the box waiting for some inspiration.
What other cars were propsed or built but never made it to Cup racing? I know a few cars were used once or twice, like the '69 GrandPrix and the early 70's Grand Am.
Model car pics or actual car pics are welcome in this thread.
I did build a phantom Torino "King Cobra"(R&D Resin body combined with Revell Promodel Torino and PolarLights Cyclone chassis), and started on the Daytona II (AMT 71 Charger with AMT Daytona add ons), Superbird II (MPC kit right out the box) and also the Mercury "Super Cyclone" (Unkown resin with addition of scraps such as the hood from Datsun280zx).
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Posted 06 May 2012 - 06:40 PM
Ed Negre in a Chrysler Cordoba , labeled as a Dodge
Nice seeing these obscure cars that never made it. I remember John Soars running a 1965/66 Rambler Ambassador with #4 on the door. Might have the drivers name wrong though.
Posted 06 May 2012 - 07:08 PM
Posted 11 May 2012 - 05:01 PM
Mine is kind of a "phantom phantom", in my mind it was never run in a race but it was built and driven/tested. I have my story for it in my head
I really love your builds for this thread Steve, got any more of them for us to look at?
Posted 13 May 2012 - 04:14 AM
Years ago I mocked up an AMT Torino Cobra with a Johan Superbird wing. I had seen a black and white photo of a factory mock up of a '69 Torino with a wing and also what looked like the nose of an early Datsun 240 with chrome bumper and similar headlights and under cut grill. Thats when I went actively looking for what we now know as the AeroCobras and Spoiler III. I abandoned the earlier Torino once I started on these. I may have to come back to that idea someday.
Posted 13 May 2012 - 04:51 AM
The early 90's Mercury Cougar
1996 Lincoln MKVIII
1973 Grand Am
Early 80's Dodge LeBaron
67-68 Ford Galaxie
the Mirada and Imperial we've referenced
1969 Grand Prix
Posted 17 June 2012 - 06:52 AM
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Posted 17 June 2012 - 07:14 PM
Over the years the legend of this car has grown, some stories are true and some have just gotten better with the retelling. In the day it was believed that this car and the ’67 car were 15/16 scale versions of the production Chevelle. This is not true, they both used factory sheet metal, the length and wheel-base are correct but the proportions have been “improved”. Smokey even created the first template to show NASCAR that his car matched a street Chevelle in the parking lot. It did, but then again the street car in the parking lot also belonged to Smokey. The front bumper was sliced and extended 2 inches to create a front air dam. The roof was modified with a subtle “vortex” generating lip. All the rough edges were smoothed, the glass was fit flush to the body, and the rear bumper feathered into the rear fender, all to improve the aerodynamics of the car.
It was common practice in NASCAR at that time to use the much stiffer Ford frame in a Chevy, Pontiac, or Dodge. Smokey believed that to mean that you could use “any manufacturers” frame in any car. So he “manufactured” his own frame. Since you had to keep the engine centered between the frame rails, he moved the entire frame to the left, as well as the fuel cell, driver and many other components to improve the balance of the car on Daytona’s banking. The engine was also used as a stressed member in the frame. The underside was an engineering marvel. The floor boards were lowered to create a belly pan, custom-made adjustable front control arms replaced stock units, and a revised front steer system was used to optimize the Ackerman angle and make room for the engines belly pan style oil pan.
The car weighed 3,900 lbs. and was powered by a de-stroked version of the Chevrolet Rat motor that displaced 416cid. Smokey’s theory was that less reciprocating mass meant higher backstretch RPM and decreased fatigue. The engine made 450HP at 7600RPM.
After nearing killing himself building the car Smokey showed up at Tech for the ’68 Daytona 500 on the last day. It was required that the car be inspected without any fuel in the tank. After six hours in the tech shed the car passed. The team pushed it over to the gas pumps to fill up and get ready for practice. They were refused fuel and told that they would not get any until the head of tech Joe Gazaway signed off on the car. Joe looked the car over and found ten items that had to be changed. First on the list was Smokey’s custom frame. It had to be a stock “Ford” frame. According to legend, with no fuel in the car and Joe telling a steaming mad Smokey he needed to change ten things on the car to race. Smokey jumped in, fired up the engine and said “make that eleven things” drove the car out of the racetrack onto the street and back to his shop. Smokey says that really isn’t true, he had put some fuel in the tank... but where did he get the fuel?
Posted 18 June 2012 - 12:07 PM
Here is a post from The H.AM.B. about the Chevelle.
That is one SWEET looking race car, IMHO...
Thanks for the pic and the very cool story, Brian!
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