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#21 martinfan5

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Posted 18 May 2012 - 03:37 PM

I remember having the Pathfinder kit when I was a teen in 90's, didn't they aslo make a land cruiser as well? or something from Toyota?, I remember having one of those as well, I think lol

Edited by martinfan5, 18 May 2012 - 03:37 PM.


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Posted 18 May 2012 - 03:44 PM

I remember having the Pathfinder kit when I was a teen in 90's, didn't they aslo make a land cruiser as well? or something from Toyota?, I remember having one of those as well, I think lol

I remember a 4Runner IIRC...

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Posted 18 May 2012 - 03:50 PM

I remember a 4Runner IIRC...


Then thats got to be it, the 4runner kit, I can barley remember last, let alone something from the 90s :lol:

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Posted 18 May 2012 - 03:55 PM

FWIW, I bought an Aoshima Subaru Legacy GT wagon a decade ago, and it included a LHD dashboard which was very nicely done.



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Posted 18 May 2012 - 05:43 PM

The dashes weren't that bad were they Dave?

The dash that came with my accord has pin holes everywhere ,thick spots ,vary bad edges and major lack of depth of the controls nobs and vents.

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 02:48 PM

Does anyone know what happened to American Satco? Or someone who carries white walls?

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 03:32 PM

Try calling Model Empire, as they still have some SATCO tire sets in stock, or try posting the part numbers you want in the Wanted section, too.



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Posted 06 April 2013 - 03:53 PM

Does anyone know what happened to American Satco? Or someone who carries white walls?

Modelhaus has heaps of whitewalls in a variety of sizes. Some of them are copies of the old Satcos. 

 


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Posted 07 April 2013 - 03:10 PM

I met Roger (Rodger?) several years ago when we went on a family vacation. Nice guy! We stopped at his shop in Iowa on the way back from the Mall of America. It was in an old school building and he also ran the town's post office in that same building. All thirty or so PO boxes... lol! 

 

I bought several items from him including a few kits. He told me the history of a bunch of his products including the awesome rubber tires he sold. I wish I could have picked up more from him but as always, I was low on money at the time. 



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Posted 07 April 2013 - 05:11 PM

Did American SATCO actually produce the tires themselves or were they simply re-packaged Aoshima tires (or whomever supplied the tires to Aoshima)? Or was it a mix of SATCO's own unique tires and some repackaged Aoshima tires?

Roger Sill was a manager at AMT/Ertl in the 1980's, left there in the late 80's, forming his own company, American SatCo.  Also, at the time (and it may still be so) virtually every Japanese model company making model car kits had their neoprene rubber tires produced by small independent contractors in Shuzoka City Japan, the city which had more model companies than any other place on earth (Tamiya, Hasegawa, Aoshima, Gunze--and virtually every other Japanese model company was located there).

 

Sill was able, with his knowledge of the model side of the hobby industry, to tap into that source, and thus began marketing those tires as separate sets in the US.  About 1990 or so, he had a Chinese injection molding company tool up a late-50's Firestone 7:00-15 tire in PVC, with a separate white sidewall insert, which in many ways set a standard for the US model car manufacturers, as this was one of the very first accurately tooled 50's or 60's bias ply tires done in 1/25 scale.  Roger also imported Aoshima kits for several years, and yes, he did contract with a couple of resin casters to make left hand drive dashboards for them to insert in the kits.

 

However, it appears that Satco was not as profitable as Sills would have liked, as he pretty much was out of the game by 2002 or thereabouts.  I last saw him when I was at Racing Champions/Ertl at Dyersville IA in July 2004, when I was working for RC2 after they bought out Playing Mantis, the original maker of Johnny Lightning diecast miniature cars (where I did product development from 2002-2005) to attend a product line announcement meeting from the various divisions.  During a 2 hour break from one day's seminars, I walked across the building to their outlet store to check out what they might have to interest me, and ran into Roger Sills, who was then into 54mm military figures, buying a supply of Britains Ltd miniature soldiers.  He didn't say much about what happened to Satco, and I didn't ask either.

 

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 05:13 PM

 

Modelhaus has heaps of whitewalls in a variety of sizes. Some of them are copies of the old Satcos. 

 

 

Satco offered just one whitewall tires, and that was their late 50's Firestone with 3" whitewall inserts.



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Posted 07 April 2013 - 11:34 PM

<p>Rodger offered in the first round of American Satco kits ;</p>
<p>&nbsp; &nbsp;Nissan Pathfinder ; Mitsubishi (Sport Ute.) ; and one or two more I don't remember . Well done Curbside kits with deeply engraved Chassis . &nbsp; Thanx ..</p>
<p>&nbsp; *Edit ; Mitsubishi Montero , Toyota 4 Runner , Nissan Pathfinder , Subaru Impressa Wagon . These are the Oshima Kits .</p>
<p>&nbsp; &nbsp;The tires :</p>
<p>&nbsp; All of these&nbsp;Entrepreneurial sources dried up&nbsp;&nbsp;in Japan making these tires . They were the source of these small parts , small quantity for the Model Manufacturing in Japan . Sub-contracted by the Large Corps. the in Home Market of Japan . &nbsp; Thanx ..</p>

Edited by dimaxion, 10 April 2013 - 06:54 AM.


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Posted 08 April 2013 - 03:46 AM

SATCO1.jpg

 

SatcoORTires1.jpg

 

SATCO2.jpg



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Posted 09 April 2013 - 05:33 PM

The Street Rod "Big n Little" set that the produced, was the tires that came in the Testors "Aluma Coupe", but without the nasty habit of splitting after they were mounted for awhile, I especially miss their "Pro Street" tire as it was of a small diameter compared to most other tires that are out there, as it is only about a 28" tall tire in scale.



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Posted 10 April 2013 - 03:31 AM

Man I really miss these, they were great tires. I got one pair of Desesrt Dogs and one pair of sweet slicks saved for future special builds. I wish he would start up again we really need a supplier like that.



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Posted 10 April 2013 - 06:46 AM

I ordered sets of the all the truck tires back in the day - must have been around '95 because I remember the ads Casey posted above.

It's a sign how difficult it is to make $ in the car hobby business. Here was a guy with intimate industry knowlwedge, networking skills and contacts, and a great product, but still couldn't make it profitable enough to continue.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 10:04 AM

we really need a supplier like that.

 

Ma's Resin seems to have become this supplier, and offers quite a few tires, including many of the 4x4/off-road variety.