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#1 matthijsgrit

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 11:44 AM

I found a resin kit of the Sniper. Originally built by Troy Trapanier, it is a 1950's Plymouth Savoy, but then HEAVILY customized.
I wonder if anyone knows what donor kit to use?
I already have the Dodge Sidewinder concept to give up drivetrain, engine and trans, wheels, exhaust, etc.
Possibliy I can use the frame.
Is there a specific donor kit for the chassis and interior?

Anyone built this resin kit?

Any info would be greatly appreciated.

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 11:55 AM

It's more than likely based on the AMT '58 Belvedere or '57 300, those would probably be good choices?

I've got the '58 here if you'd like wheelbase and/or width measurements.

Also have the AMT 'slammers' 57/58 kit here that it could be based off of...

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 12:05 PM

I'm not up on all the abbreviations. If you don't mind my asking, what is an R&R Sniper?

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 12:15 PM

R+R is a resin company that makes a lot of not so great but workable kits.

The Sniper is a custom built by Troy Trepanier and designed by Chip Foose.


Wow, Foose must have been going thru a bad phase when he designed that :huh:

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 12:32 PM

Wow, Foose must have been going thru a bad phase when he designed that :huh:


Are you kidding, that thing is awesome. The resin kit looks like poo poo though.

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 12:37 PM

It's done from a 1954 Plymouth Belvedere HT I believe, which was a longer car than the low-end Savoy that year.

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 01:32 PM

I had to look this one up since I had a '50 Plymouth .. but I see it's a '54. A very nice job and will be great to see one built.

Did come on this page that shows the frame.

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 01:37 PM

This body was mastered by Terry kinnear, who now is proprietor of Machined Aluminium Specialties; you might contact him for info. Considering what he was given to work with, he did a pretty good job....'Z'

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 02:02 PM

Wow, Foose must have been going thru a bad phase when he designed that :huh:

No... Foose still had some degree of talent when he designed this... this was long before he started throwing his own wheels on two-tone, mirrorless GM midsize cars for TV. ^_^

The 1:1 Sniper was built with a Viper drivetrain and suspensions- Troy had some buddies at Chrysler and managed to get an R&D mule that was slated to be crushed.

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 03:54 PM

I'll be the first to admit that Foose has LOTS of talent (even though his style gets a bit boring after awhile), but his motto is something to the effect "I take the ugly out"

This was a monumental task with a car like they started with for Sniper Posted Image

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 10:26 PM

I got the kit from Terry...
I don't Wanda doubt him, but he talked about a 53 Ford Victoria (?) as donor?

I agree the chassis in the kit won't resemble the real car's one...
But maybe I should just concentrate on the looks and not to create an exact replica (which isn't my goal).

Thanks for all your input!

MG

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 02:18 AM

My somewhat educated guess is that the Moebius '55 Chrysler 300 chassis would be the closest-to-accurate doner. In '57, Mopar went to torsion-bar front suspension. Both the AMT '57 300C and the AMT Plymouth '58 Belvedere have torsion bars, and the chassis are close to identical other than wheelbase. I don't have the Moebius kit in stock, but it has the coil-spring front suspension and chassis design that would be a good across-the-model-line representation for all the '53-'56 Mopars.

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 04:46 AM

Thanks all!

Since Sniper was just losely based on the Savoy, there was a square tube chassis.
That is why I will try the Sidewinder's chassis first... I think... Depends on dimensions.

But first I'll have to receive kit... I'm REALLY looking forward to that!

Edited by matthijsgrit, 24 June 2012 - 04:56 AM.


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Posted 24 June 2012 - 05:23 AM

I got the kit from Terry...
I don't Wanda doubt him, but he talked about a 53 Ford Victoria (?) as donor?

I agree the chassis in the kit won't resemble the real car's one...
But maybe I should just concentrate on the looks and not to create an exact replica (which isn't my goal).

Thanks for all your input!

MG


I also have this transkit resin and my intention is to replicate the real car. I would suggest you make the chassis by scratchbuilding it, but reading your message, I would say trust on the "father of the child" and use the '53 Ford.

Unlike everyone, I love this car. I just do not like the black cover inside the wheels.

Edited by Drago, 24 June 2012 - 05:24 AM.


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Posted 24 June 2012 - 07:18 AM

Maybe if you're building a stock Plymouth but this is a very heavily modified custom.

A stock chassis from any '50's car wouldn't be anywhere near close to accurate for this one.

I suppose it would depend on how accurate you wanted the chassis to be. If I remember, the Sniper's actual chassis was all custom fabbed, with the Viper components added to it. But, I'm thinking I'd just leave the hood sealed and use the provided chassis if I were building it. But I'd love to see somebody build this as a blow-by-blow replica with full detail!

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 05:22 PM

I was going say that it was made from a 1953 or 1954 Plymouth, the Headlights came from a Mini Cooper

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 02:02 AM

Steve is correct, the headlights are from a Mercedes.

#18 matthijsgrit

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 11:20 AM

I mailed with Terry today.
There are about 50 of these ever produced. I've never seen one finished. Anyone who has?

There are only 2 complete kits left, so HURRY if you want one.

Terry was so kind to pour a new interior hub, since he wasn't satisfied with the first.

Looking forward to this!

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 05:44 PM

You probably have plenty reference pics but here's a few more, this is how it looked in '05...


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#20 matthijsgrit

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 10:13 PM

You probably have plenty reference pics but here's a few more, this is how it looked in '05...


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040305 Goodguys Del Mar 011 by SoCalCarCulture, on Flickr


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040305 Goodguys Del Mar 010 by SoCalCarCulture, on Flickr


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040305 Goodguys Del Mar 009 by SoCalCarCulture, on Flickr


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040305 Goodguys Del Mar 012 by SoCalCarCulture, on Flickr


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040305 Goodguys Del Mar 013 by SoCalCarCulture, on Flickr


Great pics! I've never seen these, but always check your Fotki...
I especially like the interior pic.

Thank you, Dave!

MG,