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#21 rasafyff

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 09:55 AM

Just picked up the '69 Hurst today...here's a couple of pics of the tires from the kit.Posted ImagePosted Image


Wouldn't F-60's be the correct tires for this car.

I don't think you could put L-60's on the front of a real Olds 442.

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 10:50 AM

Super nice tires!!!!!

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 05:09 PM

Wouldn't F-60's be the correct tires for this car.

I don't think you could put L-60's on the front of a real Olds 442.

Looking it up and according to one particular site dedicated to the '69 Hurst/Olds...the correct tire is G60-15 on a special 15x7 rim.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 05:59 PM

Looking it up and according to one particular site dedicated to the '69 Hurst/Olds...the correct tire is G60-15 on a special 15x7 rim.

What's the difference between F-, L-, and G- 60s? Width?

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 06:33 PM

What's the difference between F-, L-, and G- 60s? Width?

I'm not an expert on tire sizing, but I would have to say yes in a nut shell. From what I've read, the old system was based on aspect ratio while the new system is based more on load capacity if that's any help. But anyway, from a conversion chart a G60-15 is a 7.10-15 in the old system and P245/60R15 in the current system.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 06:51 PM

Is the lettering on the tires "tampo printed?" TIA

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 07:06 PM

Is the lettering on the tires "tampo printed?" TIA

Basically yes. Tampo and pad printing is pretty much the same. On the box it says "pad printed" tires though.

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 08:17 AM

Does anyone know if this kit is based on the Johan 1970 Oldsmobile kit? I bought one yesterday and another today. I opened one and the similarities between the two kits make it look like the tooling is either the same or close to it.

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 05:29 PM

Does anyone know if this kit is based on the Johan 1970 Oldsmobile kit? I bought one yesterday and another today. I opened one and the similarities between the two kits make it look like the tooling is either the same or close to it.

No, this Hurst Olds kit is the second version of the 1969 Olds 442 W-30 kit that was originally released by MPC/Ertl around 1988. The Hurst Olds kit was first released by AMT/Ertl in 1989. These kits use completely different tooling than the Jo-Han kit.

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 10:43 PM

I'm not an expert on tire sizing, but I would have to say yes in a nut shell. From what I've read, the old system was based on aspect ratio while the new system is based more on load capacity if that's any help. But anyway, from a conversion chart a G60-15 is a 7.10-15 in the old system and P245/60R15 in the current system.

The old system of lettering, was the height of the tire, the width, just like it is now was the following number codes, with 69 meaning that the ratio of height to tread was that the sidewall was 60% of the tread width, & a 50 series tire meant the height of the sidewall is 50% of the tread width, so all tire would get both taller & wide as the letters/numbers go up, a 50 series tire would just have a much lower profile for its tread width than a 60 series would. I hope I have thoughroly confused most of you by now.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 05:20 AM

No, this Hurst Olds kit is the second version of the 1969 Olds 442 W-30 kit that was originally released by MPC/Ertl around 1988. The Hurst Olds kit was first released by AMT/Ertl in 1989. These kits use completely different tooling than the Jo-Han kit.

Don, thank you for the answer.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 08:45 AM

Yes L's would have been too wide for the front and would have had interference issues.

For that matter depending on the wheel offset would had interference issues on the rear too and if you did find a wheel that would allow it on the rear you would either have to roll the lip and or lift the rear for clearance.

Edited by Johnny, 11 November 2012 - 08:48 AM.


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Posted 12 November 2012 - 03:37 AM

What's the difference between F-, L-, and G- 60s? Width?


Height as well.
E 's are the shortest and L 's are the tallest , theres very little from one to the other, but if you measure an E60 to a L60 it gets very noticable

It's a shame this kit doesn't come the correct G 60 or F60 - 15's

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 10:38 AM

The New Round2 66 Mustang kit comes with 2 F60-15 tires, and they are pad printed. So all ya need to do is to get 2 of the 66 Mustang kits for a set of F60-15 tires. I am using the firestone tires from the AMT 66 Oldsmobile Hardtop kit for my build of the 442.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 02:26 AM

So the way I understand it, the only thing new about this one ,,are the tires ?

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 02:42 AM

Okay ... I'm a pretty dense person in general , but am even more-so @ 0440 HRS , so please have some patience with me when I ask , Where is the Dual Gate shifter ????

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 03:27 AM

The New Round2 66 Mustang kit comes with 2 F60-15 tires, and they are pad printed. So all ya need to do is to get 2 of the 66 Mustang kits for a set of F60-15 tires. I am using the firestone tires from the AMT 66 Oldsmobile Hardtop kit for my build of the 442.


buy approx $40 worth of kits to get 4 tires, problem with this thinking is I have no use what so ever for the remainder of said mustang kit

Thanks but I'll pass

anyone bought one or several with plans to not use the polyglas tires , pm me . I could use several sets of the F60-15's and maybe even a few of the L60-15's

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 05:48 AM

So the way I understand it, the only thing new about this one are the tires ?


Yes.

I could use several sets of the F60-15's and maybe even a few of the L60-15's


I would be willing wager a small sum Round2 is already planning to offer these as a Parts Pack set, just like their Firestone whitewalls and both sets of drag slicks, all of which appeared in kits first, then became available in a parts pack a few months later. A set of four F- and L-60 15s in each pack for $12.00 or so, and they'd have another sure hit on their hands.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 06:42 AM

buy approx $40 worth of kits to get 4 tires, problem with this thinking is I have no use what so ever for the remainder of said mustang kit

Thanks but I'll pass

anyone bought one or several with plans to not use the polyglas tires , pm me . I could use several sets of the F60-15's and maybe even a few of the L60-15's

As sad as it is, I bought two of the Mustang kits to get the tires. I am sure that I will find a use for the rest of the kits, but the ties are really nice. The total cost was just under 28.00 for both kits at Hobby Lobby with the 40% off coupons.