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Fairmont drag car build - A couple update pics 08/19/14


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#61 Prostreet

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 03:47 AM

Ok Scott, enough slacking off any updates?



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Posted 04 January 2013 - 08:57 AM

Slacking off???  What are you talking about Joe?  I've been busy!  I promise I'll have something posted soon.  I have been working on it, just no pics.  Our new kitty Emilee makes taking pics a whole lot more challenging than Isabel ever did.  I have to put everything away between photo sessions or it'll either be batted on the floor and lost or perforated by her sharp little teeth.



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Posted 04 January 2013 - 09:45 AM

Slacking off???  What are you talking about Joe?  I've been busy!  I promise I'll have something posted soon.  I have been working on it, just no pics.  Our new kitty Emilee makes taking pics a whole lot more challenging than Isabel ever did.  I have to put everything away between photo sessions or it'll either be batted on the floor and lost or perforated by her sharp little teeth.

 

Whoa easy there fella, just playin lol. Can't wait to see the update.



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Posted 04 January 2013 - 11:56 AM

Sorry Joe.  I should have added a smiley emoticon.  I was smiling pretty much the entire time I was typing my response except when thinking about how much of a little menace Emilee is... :huh:   Sorry if I "sounded" like I was upset.  I certainly wasn't.  I will post some pics soon - maybe not so much showing "progress" as attempts at progress... LOL


Edited by futurattraction, 04 January 2013 - 11:57 AM.


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Posted 04 January 2013 - 11:59 AM

Sorry Joe.  I should have added a smiley emoticon.  I was smiling pretty much the entire time I was typing my response except when thinking about how much of a little menace Emilee is... :huh:   Sorry if I "sounded" like I was upset.  I certainly wasn't.  I will post some pics soon - maybe not so much showing "progress" as attempts at progress... LOL

Nah not taken that way at all Scott.



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Posted 04 January 2013 - 12:05 PM

Good! I was starting to think I sounded mean, and I'm not.  I promise!!! LOL



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Posted 09 January 2013 - 05:59 PM

Okay. I fell off the horse but I'm gonna try to jump back on.  LOL

 

I may be short of pictures for a day or two, but I'll describe where things kind of derailed.  My original plan had been to fabricate forward frame rails and A-arm assemblies that would form the foundation for the front of my Fairmont.  As seen in earlier pictures, I got the master made and molded it, but I did a screwy job on the mold.  I didn't think it through as well as I should have.  In the process of removing the master, it basically came apart in my hands.  I thought to myself:  If I can't get the master how, how in Heaven's name am I going to get a resin piece out without messing it up.  Everything surrounding that particular endeavor stunk.

 

I then went back and rebuilt the master and made a much simpler mold.  I did succeed in at least removing the master without destroying it this time!  Here's a casting that came out of the second mold - proof that I didn't mess it up, too! LOL

 

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The good news is that while messing around with all the forward frame stuff, I was at least able to finish putting together the central frame rail system under the driver's compartment.

 

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I will readily confess that to be truly in scale, I should be using .063" material to match with 1-5/8" but one of the compromises I've chosen to make on this project is to use .080" because the extra diameter adds additional strength and cross-section to make it (somewhat) easier to mold and cast. This is especially important to me since I'm hoping/expecting to sell many of these pieces eventually and integrity, both mine personally and my parts' is important.  The problem I encountered was, when casting the "bare" forward frame rail, the fragile A-arm attachment points were proving to be a real challenge, plus .080" rail material is better than .063" but it still really doesn't offer much support for the weight of any model, let alone a resin-bodied car.  After talking to Ed Fluck and another builder, I decided I really needed to go in a different direction altogether to incorporate more strength into the forward assembly, plus accommodate a stronger suspension mounting system.  What I came up with consists of .080" rod formed around some .032" 3003 H-14 aluminum.  I was able to draw it out on my CAD program and come up with some working templates.  I think - I hope that everything will fit the way it looks to when mocked up by hand.  This is a pic of the masters, which incorporate collars made out of 3/32" (.094) tubing, which will provide the mounting point for the upper strut mounts.

 

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Probably better quit for tonight.  I'll try to better stay on top of this in the future.


Edited by futurattraction, 10 January 2013 - 04:32 AM.


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Posted 09 January 2013 - 06:53 PM

Nice work Scott, good to see you making some progress on this. Are the parts your molding going to be part of your product line in the future?



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Posted 10 January 2013 - 02:15 AM

very nice Scott, glad to see some progress!!



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Posted 10 January 2013 - 02:40 AM

Keep teasing me with this kind of quality / detail , and I might have to get one of these to do a Glidden car for myself ( the subject is a tad bit newer than I normally venture )



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Posted 10 January 2013 - 03:19 AM

Looks great Scott...

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 04:35 AM

Nice work Scott, good to see you making some progress on this. Are the parts your molding going to be part of your product line in the future?

That's the current plan, Joe.

 

Thanks to both of you Bills... :)

 

Hey, thanks for the pick-me-up, Tyrone!



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Posted 10 January 2013 - 05:28 PM

Scott - You must post some pics of Emilee !

Give her a smooch for me :)



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Posted 10 January 2013 - 05:54 PM

Scott ,

                Your craftmanship is absolutely remarkable.

 

                You have a tremendous website. I want to express my deepest sympathy on the passing of

            Isabel (1994 -2012). She must have given the family much love. I never was friends with a

            cat until I met my wife. We have had out cat Fluffy for going on 17 years now. We need to

            give her fluid every day with a needle and pills. She still does not hold a grudge, and enjoys life.

 

            Thanks for making a great line of parts.

Ron



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Posted 10 January 2013 - 06:34 PM

Scott.... things are looking good bud. It's great to see you making progress on this build my friend. Keep up the killer work.



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Posted 11 January 2013 - 12:06 PM

John - I was holding Emilee when I saw your reply, so I smooched her right there on the spot and told her it was from you. She was impressed! LOL Here is a silhouette of her:

 

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I'll post something that actually shows her markings and such later.

 

Thank you, very much, Ron. I appreciate both your kind words about my website and condolences regarding Izzy. She was a lovely kitty and was very mild mannered, except for the occasional "big-eye" as Donilee and I called it. Then you wanted to keep her at arm's reach... She was very much a lap cat and my wife and I loved her dearly. We actually had to "water" Izzy, just as you are with Fluffy. We did it for over two year's I'm guessing. Also, as you say, she never held it against us. She didn't like it, and she always knew when it was time, but she never fought us or anything, for which we were both thankful. It probably gave her an extra year and a half to two years' worth of a contented life.

 

Thanks Chris!


Edited by futurattraction, 11 January 2013 - 12:08 PM.


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Posted 11 January 2013 - 02:22 PM

Scott your work on this has always been excellent and fascinating....Keep at it!



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Posted 13 January 2013 - 03:33 PM

Lookin' good Scott. Keep the updates coming.



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Posted 17 January 2013 - 05:35 AM

The central frame rail section turned out pretty well and mimics much of the Revell structure.  I've added some structural tubing and seat mount tabs under the driver's seat area.  Here’s a pic of what it looks like fitted to the bottom of the pan.

 

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I made a bit of progress in getting some of the structural components prepped.  I did successfully mold and cast both upper strut tube/tin work pieces and have drilled out the strut mount collar and have done some general cleanup on the tubing.  Flash was pretty minimal, which is nice.  I added some small alignment nubs to the outboard side of the lower rail so there is something to use as a guide when attaching the main lower control arm PE brackets.  The nubs do have to be trimmed to allow for a tighter fit to the rail.  This pic shows the passenger side lower bracket attached.

 

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The driver side panel with the strut piston rod and sample upper mount inserted in the collar.  I have PE upper strut mount gussets that will be added, both for strength and aesthetic detail.  Pics of those will hopefully come soon, as will some lower PE control arm wishbones.  They will tie both lower angles of control arm tubing together as well as offer a fool-proof connection to the bottom strut mount. If nothing else, you'll come to realize that I value solid mounting points when connecting fragile pieces together.  LOL  One of the trickiest parts of assembling the lower mounts was having them as close to perpendicular to the rail as possible, while also being on the same plane as the rail.  I think I pulled that off reasonably well…

 

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One of the many challenges in building and designing as I go, which is basically what's going on at this point, is that portions of the lower tin work will have to be removed for header clearance.  I could probably remove some of it now, but I don't want to take out too much.  Until I have more of the engine and motor plate assembled, I'm going to have to play it close to the vest.  I'm actually toying with the idea of making some true tin work, i.e., PE panels that can be laid in over the top of these panels.  IF that is the case, I may be able to remove the central portion of the resin "tin", leaving a perimeter flange, or maybe Dzus plate sized resin tabs.  What is anybody's opinion of how that could be done?

 

More to come...


Edited by futurattraction, 17 January 2013 - 11:13 AM.


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Posted 17 January 2013 - 05:46 AM

I might have to get one of these to do a Glidden car for myself ( the subject is a tad bit newer than I normally venture )

Same here, but I just dig Fairmonts that much! B)