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#1 catd11rpusher

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 09:51 AM

Can anybody, show me a picture of the Western star consolation truck, tower hobbies has it but no picture.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 10:17 AM

I believe your original post was moved to the truck stop section of the forum but here is a pic of the kit Tower has it was just re released. The constellation series was introduced in 1996 to replace the aging heritage series which was continued til about 2001. The constellation is built with short ,long and sloped hoods set back and forward axles. All current WS trucks are in the constellation series except the recently released 4700[attachment=21475:IT03874.jpg][attachment=21475:IT03874.jpg] series vocational trucks.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 10:32 AM

Heritage left and Constellation right Western Stars

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 01:00 PM

The hood on the Italeri Constellation WS was a short-lived offered by WS. The design quickly changed to the more traditional hoods. The kit hood can be still be seen on the road from time to time, but there weren't a lot of them built. I wish Italeri would have waited a year to develop the kit as WS had the traditional hoods in production by then. A resin caster in Australia casts some nice traditional hoods, but they are the Aussie versions. With some gentle modifications they could be built as the north American WS's.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 02:12 PM

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 02:12 PM

Thank you Tim,and Leo for the info. I ordered it today. :D

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 03:24 PM

Tim is correct the hood on the Italerie kit the 5900 series was a short lived aero style that didn't sell well. It seems us Western Star buyers tend to be a more traditional bunch. Maybe you can post some pics of your build later.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 03:27 PM

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Nice pic chuckyr That would be a 108" bbc version. Would be a neat project to do with the Italeri kit shorter hood and flat top bunk.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 10:06 PM

Nice pic chuckyr That would be a 108" bbc version. Would be a neat project to do with the Italeri kit shorter hood and flat top bunk.


You are correct. It is the 5864. The Italeri kit is the 5964. Tim did a 108" bbc version awhile back.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 10:25 PM

The hood on the Italeri Constellation WS was a short-lived offered by WS. The design quickly changed to the more traditional hoods. The kit hood can be still be seen on the road from time to time, but there weren't a lot of them built. I wish Italeri would have waited a year to develop the kit as WS had the traditional hoods in production by then. A resin caster in Australia casts some nice traditional hoods, but they are the Aussie versions. With some gentle modifications they could be built as the north American WS's.

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hey mate. what are the differences in hoods from the aussie and american versions?

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 01:24 AM

Off the top of my head.. the headlamps are the most obvious. I'm not that 'schooled' on the WS product line between north America and Australia to tell without side-by-side comparisons.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 02:24 AM

As far as I know all WS products for Australia are fullt built up in Canada and they are driven off the boat here is Australia. Any other modifications that are Austrlalian Specific are done here in Australia prior to the truck entering service, such as extra fuel tanks and so on. In the latest models I have seen, the hoods, cab and sleeper, including aftermarket and stratosphere sleeper, sit higher off of the chassis for better engine cooling due to the heavier weights hauled plus the fact that most Western Stars will tow two or more trailers in their operational lifetime. They are a very popular truck here is Australia.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 05:31 AM

Checking http://www.westernstar.com and http://www.westernstar.au, it appears that the Italeri kit hood is still available there. The other hoods offered for export from north America and the domestic hoods are the same with only lamp changes being made, then interior, chassis and other changes for the regional markets.

I tried to direct link the photos from the WS site(s) but was unable to get them to work. :(

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 07:02 AM

WS have not been built in Canada since September 2002, all trucks, export included are built at the portland plant. The headlight/tail lights were different between the two, NA...dual square headlights with round single or square single tail lights, Aussie...dual round headlights, the tail light bracket was long enough to cover the rear tires and had the mudflap bolted to it, the lights were all all square and separate (brake/signalbackup), air cleaners mostly had the "ram air" tubes with brackets supporting them at the top of the cab. Fuel tanks were all installed at the factory...up to six depending on the customer, front bumpers were simple flat and u-shaped channel painted black due to roo bars being installed. At one point, the trucks were shipped as incomplete vehicles to be finished at a WS facility due to export rules or taxes (?), that changed and all were completed then shipped by boat, rims could be either the 5 spoke steel or aluminium Alcoa style.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 07:13 AM

Here is an Aussie WS Seems to be the same as a North American 4900fa other than right hand steering,tall air cleaners and usual Aussie equipment. Aussies seem to prefer large round headlights to small square ones. Apparently they work better in Aussie conditions. would be easy to make resin hoods American.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 07:30 AM

WS also built an aero version of the Heritage series.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 07:40 AM

Looks suspiciously like a Peterbilt 377385doesn't it. There is a backstory involving patents and shared design studios with unintended consequences.

WS also built an aero version of the Heritage series.



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Posted 18 August 2012 - 08:56 AM

The hood on the Italeri Constellation WS was a short-lived offered by WS. The design quickly changed to the more traditional hoods. The kit hood can be still be seen on the road from time to time, but there weren't a lot of them built. I wish Italeri would have waited a year to develop the kit as WS had the traditional hoods in production by then. A resin caster in Australia casts some nice traditional hoods, but they are the Aussie versions. With some gentle modifications they could be built as the north American WS's.

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I saw quite a few 5000 series Western Stars in Florida during the early 2000s. The were used to haul reefers.


Auslowe offered at least two conversion kits. The 4964 FX Visibility hood for the original Italeri 4900 kit and the 4900 EX for the Constellation kit.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 10:07 AM

Looks suspiciously like a Peterbilt 377385doesn't it. There is a backstory involving patents and shared design studios with unintended consequences.

Yes it does, seems to have been the style at the time aero hood on a traditional truck.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 10:09 AM

I saw quite a few 5000 series Western Stars in Florida during the early 2000s. The were used to haul reefers.


Auslowe offered at least two conversion kits. The 4964 FX Visibility hood for the original Italeri 4900 kit and the 4900 EX for the Constellation kit.

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I have seen some of the Auslowe conversions done up they look nice. Even seen one done as a Low Max.