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[58 Impala]

I want at least 2, one out of the box and one to do a Garlits car.

[iBorg]

The Garlits issue was also available in a white plastic.

 

Mike

[Alan]

90%? I have both originals and except for decals and box are they are the same..............

[iBorg]

Actually.....no.

but its a slight no. My Garlits kit had rather nice M and H Racemasters.

 

Besides that, only the box and decals were changed.

[Alan]

So does the orig YA

[iBorg]

I'll give you that.....I was comparing this issue to the original Garlits to the current reissue.  I agree the original issues were different in boxes and decals. I think the only difference in the instructions was the header telling you what kit they were for.

 

No offense intended.

 

MIke

[azers]

Now I know what i can use my new white letter drag slicks on from amt. I matched them up last night with the ones in the kit.

[Alan]

non taken Mike .... I fig. you were comp. the latest issue .......... they removed the M&H and tampo printed Good Year but tampo printed M&H on the parts pack tire sets, I have a couple of those as well.

[horsepower]

I must be doing something wrong, I went to the local LHS yesterday I according to Horizon Hobbies, the kit won't be available to them until late January, I assume that this is because it is on backorder? I also picked up the boxes of the new 11.75x16 Racemaster slicks from AMT, & was very disappointed in them I didn't buy a set because of the six boxes they had there were only two to three sets in each box that had the lettering in proper registration, I don't want to pay that much for six sets of tires, & have to re-do half of them..

[tim boyd]

I must be doing something wrong, I went to the local LHS yesterday I according to Horizon Hobbies, the kit won't be available to them until late January, I assume that this is because it is on backorder? I also picked up the boxes of the new 11.75x16 Racemaster slicks from AMT, & was very disappointed in them I didn't buy a set because of the six boxes they had there were only two to three sets in each box that had the lettering in proper registration, I don't want to pay that much for six sets of tires, & have to re-do half of them..

 

Del....I bought mine from the Autoworld (subsidiary of Round 2) website about three weeks ago and they were on my doorstep three days later.  Good luck....worth the effort to search it out.   TIM

[tim boyd]

Not sure if I am following this thread correctly, but the reissued Young American kit has the following differences vs. the original Don Garlits Wynnscharger:

New larger fuel tank located farther back in the chassis, replacing the Garlits tank.

New oil tank (?) and dual oil filters (?) attached to new frame crossmember.

Ballast box in frame near front axle, replacing the axle weights and front spoiler in the Garlits kit.

Different tie rod and steering link off the driver's side kingpin (vs. the center steer tie rod linkage in the Garlits kit.

Different valve covers (these actually carry over from the Fiat Railrod Slingshot issue; the original Young American kit did have the same valve covers as the Garlits kit from what I recall.

And of course, the box art, instructions, and decals.

Apologize if I misunderstood and am restating the obvious.....TIM

Edited by tim boyd, 23 December 2012 - 11:19 AM.

[Alan]

I stand corrected, Tim is correct. I did a quick glance, but after taking both orig. kits and doing a detailed side by side, there are a few differences. Intersting if you compare the two YA box pics

 

PS    

Tim,

Like both your 62 Vette and Stude ...

Edited by Alan, 23 December 2012 - 03:42 PM.

[tim boyd]

   

Tim,

Like both your 62 Vette and Stude ...

Thanks Alan!  TIM

[Jim_Kampmann]

Slixx is doing Swamp Rat 12B decals to fit the Young American kit. Not quite ready yet, but soon!

 

Jim Kampmann

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[Daddyfink]

A  quick compare between the Garlits kit and the Fiat Rail Rod Slingshot offshoot. Lets remember that the tree was changed to make the fuel injected car. I do not yet have a YA kit to compare them to. 

 

 

Garlits Chrome

 

 

Fiat Rail Chrome

 

Instructions

 

 

 

Hope this helps! 

Edited by Daddyfink, 24 December 2012 - 10:28 AM.

[Daddyfink]

The rest of the Rail Rod

 

[1320wayne]

Here is the chrome tree from the YA kit.

 

[tim boyd]

Thanks Wayne and Jesse.

 

Once it became evident to me just how much the chrome runner had changed vs. the original Garlits issue, it also became clear why Round 2 had not attempted to reissue the Don Garlits version of the kit. 

 

By the way, note that the new YA version has the same valve covers as the Rail Rod, NOT the same ones as the original YA. 

 

Also, the distributor/magneto in the new version YA did not match the instruction illustration and did not match the original mag I recall from building the original issue Garlits kit. (You can see the original mag in the top left corner of the Garlits kit chrome tree in Jesse's post above.)  It doesn't also does not fit the distributor location for a second gen 426 Hemi block properly.  There is also a big hole in the engine block at the top rear, right where a first gen 392 Hemi would have its Distributor/Mag (you should fill this hole when building your YA).  All of which makes me suspect that the engine block and Magneto carry over from the Carl Casper Cosmic Charger version of the kit, which represents a pseudo first gen Hemi with "Imperial" lettering on the valve covers....

 

All this must drive the guys at Round 2 crazy when they attempt to do a kit reissue.  For us as experienced modelers, I guess in the big picture it really doesn't matter much.  It's just GREAT! to have this kit back!  TIM   

Edited by tim boyd, 26 December 2012 - 02:47 AM.

[ZTony8]

Adding to this-I looked at my old Garlits version and saw that the front of the frame where the front axle attaches is different on the YA version.It's narrower  on the YA to accomodate the different style front axle.

Edited by ZTony8, 26 December 2012 - 03:09 AM.

[oldscool]

I just got mine testerday from Hobbylinc.com and this is what it looks like.

Not only do the side rails have a hump in them:

 

But the chassis is badly twisted:

 

I've had it with old MPC and AMT reissues. I get disappointed every time.

Edited by oldscool, 19 January 2013 - 09:07 AM.