191 replies to this topic

[Darin Bastedo]

You guys should cut Revell some slack. Due to a typo on an internal memo, we almost got Fosse Designed kits.

[lanesteele240]

with CNC machines, a new too could be cut out in a week. especially if outsourced to Korea or China

Edited by lanesteele240, 01 September 2012 - 08:15 AM.

[Ace-Garageguy]

with CNC machines, a new too could be cut out in a week. especially if outsourced to Korea or China

Yup....glad someone made this point, although we in the States have every bit the capability to cut a tool quickly. And I'm still in the dark as to why so much tooling is outsourced overseas, because in the overall scheme of things, the actual cutting-of-the-tool cost is rather insignificant, in my mind at least, compared to the benefit to the product and market positioning that "proudly tooled in America" on the box could add. I'd pay a little more for that, frankly.

BUT, the final CNC machining of the tool depends entirely on the competence of the team that interprets any necessary design changes to portray the Foose version, imparts accurately to the CAD guys what the scope and desired outcome of the tool-changes will be, and quickly assembles and evaluates test-shots to provide feedback to fine-tune the tooling. This must be where the tremendous time-lag between the 'coming to a hobby store near you' announcement and the actual availability of the kits usually comes in.

[mrmike]

The reality is Revell will not tool up a whole new kit when they have a perfectly good model kit tooling on the shelf. They will tool new wheels and maybe new tires and suspension pieces along any other specific parts to satisfy Chip's requirements. Beyond that, it will be the same kit that is available now. CAD/CAM and CNC machining costs money and Revell needs a good business plan before they invest the money and go ahead with new tooling and packaging for the Foose kits. Not only that, but Chip will want his piece of the pie before the product hits the shelf with his name on it. These kits are a marketing tool with new episodes of Overhaulin' coming in October and older episodes running on Velocity Channel right now.

[GMP440]

Instead of reissuing the same kits again, I would love to see Revell come out with a 68' Coronet R/T and also
a 70' Dodge Charger R/T. Lets develope new tools instead of rereleasing the same thing year after year.

[CEKPETHO BCE]

I see this thread is mostly about Chip Foose, but I would love it if Revell put out a 39 Lincoln Zephyr coupe... or any other company for that matter.

[PatRedmond]

with CNC machines, a new too could be cut out in a week. especially if outsourced to Korea or China

All well and good, but it's STILL very expensive. Return On Investment would be poor on a new tool with limited interest.

[Danno]

Isn't he the guy who invented Foosball?

[Deathgoblin]

A Fosse kit could've been funny. Jazz Hands!

[jaydar]

If this is not a Foose-only thread, my choices are
68 Muztang conv
71 mustang
1/12 cobra 427

[sjordan2]

If you missed it, the podcast that Casey posted the other day is very pertinent to this topic - Ed Sexton and Roger Harney interview (the product guys from Revell).

http://www.modelcars...showtopic=63193

Edited by sjordan2, 02 September 2012 - 07:41 AM.

[Greg Myers]

That may be. But he doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who cares. And if Revell can increase sales by doing some Foosed up kits, I'm all for it.

That may be. But he doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who cares. And if Revell can increase sales by doing some Foosed up kits, I'm all for it.

Yep Ford tried that back in the day. Shelbied up Mustangs ? One would hope you'd get more than just the foose decals.

[blueoval92]

either revell or ( preferably AMT) should do a kit for Troy Trepanier's Chicayne. 1962 Chevy Biscayne hot rodded.

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Edited by blueoval92, 02 September 2012 - 09:04 AM.

[B.DougBeck]

I would like to see the following.

Current V8 super cars
1970 Charger
1969 Roadrunner
1972 GranTorino
Australian Falcon coupe, I like the XAs
302 Maverick
Shelby Daytona coupe

[Michigan Madman]

Yes, we know that, but it's running down. ALREADY these proposed Foose releases are late. Yes, they'll sell some, but Revell is late on a trend. Again. Much like AMT's 'Coddington' Series.

I don't know- I think AMT's Coddington kits were right on the ball as far as timing. The downside was that, well, the features they added to the kits just plain sucked for the most part. In this case I'm not too worried, when Revell adds new parts to an existing kit they tend not to 'half heart' it the way RC2 did.

[Casey]

Yes, we know that, but it's running down. ALREADY these proposed Foose releases are late. Yes, they'll sell some, but Revell is late on a trend. Again. Much like AMT's 'Coddington' Series.

There may be perfectly good reasons for Revell's perceived "lateness", and their timing couldn't be better if the '68 Firebird kits hits store shelves the last week of September-- one week before the new season of Overhaulin' premieres on TV.

[Casey]

I don't know- I think AMT's Coddington kits were right on the ball as far as timing. The downside was that, well, the features they added to the kits just plain sucked for the most part. In this case I'm not too worried, when Revell adds new parts to an existing kit they tend not to 'half heart' it the way RC2 did.

I don't think any of the 1/25 kits matched anything Boyd's company built in 1:1, did they? I think the accurate replicas were done by Testors (Alumacoupe, Chezoom, Boydster, etc.) a few years before AMT jumped in.

[Deathgoblin]

maybe some oddballs, like a 59 Buick Invicta or a 61 Plymouth?

[PatRedmond]

There may be perfectly good reasons for Revell's perceived "lateness", and their timing couldn't be better if the '68 Firebird kits hits store shelves the last week of September-- one week before the new season of Overhaulin' premieres on TV.

That will sell some I guess, but I still think Chip's popularity is waning. 2 years ago would have been better.

[slusher]

I've always liked Foose builds better than Coddington garbage.

l agree with that Jim. Revell has put out so many new special adidtion kit and for the price and quality l would have to say they have the biggest american market. l have to give them the benefit of dought.