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#1 modelmike

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 04:01 PM

What makes a builder a Pro? other than being good enough to be paid to build for model companies box art. when how can the everyday builder be called a pro????

#2 Harry P.

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 04:12 PM

It's not a matter of being "good enough," if you do something that someone pays you to do, whether you're good at it or not, then you are a "pro" at whatever it is you'e being paid to do. There are "pro" athletes who aren't particularly good, there are teachers who aren't particularly good, there are lawyers that aren't particularly good, etc... but they're all "pros" at what they do.

If you build models for a living, if that's your profession, then you're a pro builder. But anything other than that... having some sort of honorary title of "pro" builder... is meaningless, because there's no measure or standard to identify someone as a "pro" builder. Anybody can call themselves a "pro" builder, and that's why the title is meaningless, unless you actually build models for a living, in which case you are technically a model building professional.

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 04:24 PM

I think Harry summed it pretty well, and that is why you see people trying to sell glue bombs and calling it "pro built"

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 04:24 PM

There are different definitions of "pro" depending on what you mean. In the days before CAD and 3d animation a friend of mine worked on cooling systems for nuclear power plants and built models of the finished systems to illustrate how the system was layed out. He built these industrial models for a job, he was a professional model builder. He also built model kits in his off time as a hobby. While his hobby kits were nice the builds he was proudest of were all of the scratchbuilt power plants he built at work.

On the hobby side "pro" usually means people pay you for your biulds. It is used very loosely, there is no application process to be allowed to use the term and no one checks behind you if you do.

#5 martinfan5

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 04:27 PM

there is no application process to be allowed to use the term and no one checks behind you if you do.


Not always, few have been called out on here :lol:

#6 Dr. Cranky

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 05:34 PM

Yes indeed what Harry says. But I will also say that I always try never to mix money with my enjoyment of this hobby. In other words, I don't sell my work, or build for profit. That's just me. I respect that other people can obviously do it and have no problem doing it.

#7 rel14

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 06:01 PM

If they get paid there a PRO,, Hmm wait till my Mom gets out of jail,,i tell her shes a PRO, cause she gets paid LOL LOL




Forgive me lord, but thats funny

Edited by rel14, 13 September 2012 - 06:02 PM.


#8 Tom Setzer

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 06:06 PM

When I made my living Racing Slot Cars I was a Pro Driver, I also built most of the Chassis The Team Ran so I guess I was also a pro Builder. Today The Title that I Would Chose to Use is Veteran Driver. I also Would rather be called a Veteran Model Builder as I don't ever sell any of my builds. The problem comes from Race and Model show Organizers that makes people like me enter so called pro classes! I don't even consider myself a pro Writer even though I get paid small amounts for my History Articles, I am an Amature Historian and Writer!

#9 martinfan5

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 06:09 PM

Not another "Pro" built/builder topic! :blink:

http://www.modelcars...&hl="pro built"


I guess we are still in reruns here as well, when do the new topics for the season begin :lol:

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 09:45 PM

I guess we are still in reruns here as well, when do the new topics for the season begin :lol:

Myself like seeing the same subjest come up at different times. Gives the new people on here a chance to chime in and maybe a new persprctive on rge subject. I myself will never be called a pro as I neverwill be able to build something that good. It does make me try and improve on all my models though.

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 11:31 PM

Thanks for the info everyone and sorry if this topic has been pounded into the ground... I didnt know still kinda new to this site... so to the bitter moderator and his friend a special " Sorry I will not do it again, please dont hit me with a warning thingy"...

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Posted 14 September 2012 - 01:46 AM

wikipedia says;

A professional is a person who is paid to undertake a specialized set of tasks and to complete them for a fee.

this does not include college athletes.........hehe.

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Posted 14 September 2012 - 02:27 AM

l have never understood why people on ebay and others call themselves pro. l have built since l was a kid and l am only an average builder. Maybe it makes them feel better.

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Posted 14 September 2012 - 02:48 AM

l have never understood why people on ebay and others call themselves pro.


Because they think it will raise people's bids.

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Posted 14 September 2012 - 05:46 AM

Because they think it will raise people's bids.


That makes sence Harry...

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Posted 14 September 2012 - 07:04 AM

I think the abbreviation "pro" can also be used to mean simply very good or efficient at something without necessarily having anything to do with income.

(As in "My 12 year old scored another goal today. He's a real pro").

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Posted 14 September 2012 - 07:29 AM

I was once a pro, but a con pays better lol

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Posted 14 September 2012 - 07:47 AM

To be considered a "Pro" or professional builder, you must first must complete the 12 year apprenticeship program, then submit 4 models for review to the National Model Builders and Rivet Counters board, then fill out the 50 page application (assuming you have passed the board), write a 500 page thesis on your particular area of modeling expertise, complete the "Quest", answer the 5 riddles, and bring the still beating heart of a novice modeler to the acceptance ceremony. You will then receive your secret decoder ring and photocopied membership card in the mail in 4 to 6 weeks. Good luck! OR, you could just sell a model for money and add pro to your Ebay description to make more money. Either way, you're a pro!

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Posted 14 September 2012 - 08:13 AM

I still have my first decoder ring, and it works!

#20 Badluck 13

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Posted 14 September 2012 - 08:23 AM

I still have my first decoder ring, and it works!

.....But is it a "Pro" decoder ring????