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#141 Darin Bastedo

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 05:11 AM

Please for the love of all things , can someone explain to me why Foose is so popular, he takes a old car, puts some wheels on it, does a motor swap, adds some racing seats and puts a "cool" paint striped down the side ?, whats to so cool about that, I am really trying to understand, help me please :huh:

David, nice mock up review , the ride height does not look to bad out of the box

Why is Chip Foose so popular?  Well for one he does far more than just put big wheels on old cars. His full on custom designs are top notch in design. fit and finish. They are Distinctive enough to be able to tell they are one of his at first glance.

 

Before:

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After:

 

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Yeah all he did was a motor swap and a set of big wheels.



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Posted 23 February 2013 - 05:18 AM

If you want to see Foose...look at his own Ford effie....looks pretty close to stock...but not close!

 

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http://www.chipfoose...mpleted_Builds#



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Posted 23 February 2013 - 02:04 PM

I myself just picked up this Foose Firebird kit and can't wait to start building it. IMO it looks to be an awesome kit so I'm excited about building it...



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Posted 23 February 2013 - 09:37 PM

Why is Chip Foose so popular?  Well for one he does far more than just put big wheels on old cars. His full on custom designs are top notch in design. fit and finish. They are Distinctive enough to be able to tell they are one of his at first glance.

 

 

He does really nice job, I mean that he builds cleanly and cars are very nicely finished, they can win trophies in shows and whatever. But I'm not a fan of Chip Foose or Boyd Coddincton or any other builder who install those huge wheels with low profile tires on a car, or modern engines... In those pics you posted, I'd still prefer the "Before"-car. :D

 

It's a shame that Revell didn't make kits with George Barris, John D Agostino or Gene Winfield, instead of Chip Foose.

 

This is just my opinion, so.... :lol:



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Posted 24 February 2013 - 05:52 AM

 

He does really nice job, I mean that he builds cleanly and cars are very nicely finished, they can win trophies in shows and whatever. But I'm not a fan of Chip Foose or Boyd Coddincton or any other builder who install those huge wheels with low profile tires on a car, or modern engines... In those pics you posted, I'd still prefer the "Before"-car. :D

 

It's a shame that Revell didn't make kits with George Barris, John D Agostino or Gene Winfield, instead of Chip Foose.

 

This is just my opinion, so.... :lol:

Ok I'll accept the others, but George Barris? Really? what George Barris "Kustom" do you think they should kit? Now his Brother Sam, the one with the talent did some cool stuff, But unless your target market is "Huggy Bear" I don't think George's stuff will sell.

 

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 06:46 AM

Ok I'll accept the others, but George Barris? Really? what George Barris "Kustom" do you think they should kit? Now his Brother Sam, the one with the talent did some cool stuff, But unless your target market is "Huggy Bear" I don't think George's stuff will sell.

 

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He does really nice job, I mean that he builds cleanly and cars are very nicely finished, they can win trophies in shows and whatever. But I'm not a fan of Chip Foose or Boyd Coddincton or any other builder who install those huge wheels with low profile tires on a car, or modern engines... In those pics you posted, I'd still prefer the "Before"-car. :D

 

It's a shame that Revell didn't make kits with George Barris, John D Agostino or Gene Winfield, instead of Chip Foose.

 

This is just my opinion, so.... :lol:

Foose is of the modern era, though....Barris is known for tacky junk from 40-50 years ago..  Winfield is long retired isn't he?    Not familiar with Agostino.  As far as modern day customizers,  Moal is doing some interesting things.



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Posted 24 February 2013 - 08:40 AM

 

 

Foose is of the modern era, though....Barris is known for tacky junk from 40-50 years ago..  Winfield is long retired isn't he?    Not familiar with Agostino.  As far as modern day customizers,  Moal is doing some interesting things.

Here is a link to John D'agostino's site. Cool stuff, more traditional style.

http://www.johndagos...om/showcars.htm



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Posted 24 February 2013 - 07:19 PM

Here are some cars I'd like to see from George Barris:

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Okay I don't like the grille on the next one, but otherwise it's really cool.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 05:19 AM

Here are some cars I'd like to see from George Barris:

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Okay I don't like the grille on the next one, but otherwise it's really cool.

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What in particular, do you see in these that would make them particularly marketable? Aside from the Copper Kart these all look like fairly generic 50's customs.



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Posted 26 February 2013 - 05:48 AM

I don't know if them all would sell very well, but especially that Copper Kart and the HotRod would be really cool kits (New Tooling & Full Detail). They could be used as parts kits as well I guess. B)



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Posted 03 April 2013 - 06:52 AM

I got the kit and modified the wheels by painting gold middles......see pic attached

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 07:29 AM

Here is a link to John D'agostino's site. Cool stuff, more traditional style.

http://www.johndagos...om/showcars.htm

http://celebritykust...rs/#prettyPhoto



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Posted 04 April 2013 - 12:05 PM

 

He does really nice job, I mean that he builds cleanly and cars are very nicely finished, they can win trophies in shows and whatever. But I'm not a fan of Chip Foose or Boyd Coddincton or any other builder who install those huge wheels with low profile tires on a car, or modern engines... In those pics you posted, I'd still prefer the "Before"-car. :D

 

It's a shame that Revell didn't make kits with George Barris, John D Agostino or Gene Winfield, instead of Chip Foose.

 

This is just my opinion, so.... :lol:

   I hate to burst your bubble, but it has probably been 60+ years since GEORGE Barris actually built any car, even the Ala Kart came out of Barris's shop, but was built by several other customizers of the time, that have gone on to be major constructors in their own shops, George was, & still is the business end of the shop, & is a real promoter, & has quite a few ideas of his that are somewhat questionable to some of us, but the Barris name is still a major name in the industry.

   And they do/have made models from some some of the best in the industry, Gene Winfield, Bill Cushenberry, The Alexander Brothers, to name just a few, & these like Chip Foose actually built & worked on the cars that came out of their shops.


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Posted 04 April 2013 - 12:14 PM

   I hate to burst your bubble, but it has probably been 60+ years since GEORGE Barris actually built any car, even the Ala Kart came out of Barris's shop, but was built by several other customizers of the time, that have gone on to be major constructors in their own shops, George was, & still is the business end of the shop, & is a real promoter, & has quite a few ideas of his that are somewhat questionable to some of us, but the Barris name is still a major name in the industry.
   And they do/have made models from some some of the best in the industry, Gene Winfield, Bill Cushenberry, The Alexander Brothers, to name just a few, & these like Chip Foose actually built & worked on the cars that came out of their shops.


Del. I'm one who actually met/ knew Mr. Barris . No, I'm no fan of him either . He used to look down on me cause I worked at a competitor of his years ago. I later went on to start my own business. Gene Winfield isn't retired, far from it . By the way, a real gentleman too.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 12:57 PM

Why is Chip Foose so popular?  Well for one he does far more than just put big wheels on old cars. His full on custom designs are top notch in design. fit and finish. They are Distinctive enough to be able to tell they are one of his at first glance.

 

Before:

Master2022-vi.jpg

 

After:

 

Master2030c-vi.jpg

 

Yeah all he did was a motor swap and a set of big wheels.

 

I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but to my eye the "before" looks way better than the "after." The weird angle on the roof/window openings on the "after" are very awkward and clash with the overall lines of the car.



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Posted 04 April 2013 - 01:01 PM

Why is Chip Foose so popular?  Well for one he does far more than just put big wheels on old cars. His full on custom designs are top notch in design. fit and finish. They are Distinctive enough to be able to tell they are one of his at first glance.

 

Before:

Master2022-vi.jpg

 

After:

 

Master2030c-vi.jpg

 

Yeah all he did was a motor swap and a set of big wheels.

I hope this is sarcasm, because if it's not then you have missed quite a few changes to this car over the stock original design.



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Posted 04 April 2013 - 01:18 PM

 

I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but to my eye the "before" looks way better than the "after." The weird angle on the roof/window openings on the "after" are very awkward and clash with the overall lines of the car.

I agree that some of the lines are a bit awkward but I think it would be best to consider that all the cars you see as built by Chip Foose are not actually owned by Chip and final product we may not find appealing has actually been approved by the actual owners of the vehicle.



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Posted 04 April 2013 - 02:58 PM

I agree that some of the lines are a bit awkward but I think it would be best to consider that all the cars you see as built by Chip Foose are not actually owned by Chip and final product we may not find appealing has actually been approved by the actual owners of the vehicle.

 

Who approved the design is irrelevant. I'm commenting on the final product, regardless of who had what part in it. And to my eye the before looks much better than the after. Just my opinion as a professional designer (and yes, my college degree is in product design/industrial design).  ;)



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Posted 04 April 2013 - 06:42 PM

 
Who approved the design is irrelevant. I'm commenting on the final product, regardless of who had what part in it. And to my eye the before looks much better than the after. Just my opinion as a professional designer (and yes, my college degree is in product design/industrial design).  ;)


Have to agree with HP. While the finish is beautiful and I like the colors, the overall look is askew - just not naturally appealing to the eye. You can say it's subjective, but there are some elements of design that are not - and I think this car has some of those elements wrong.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 07:56 PM

Have to agree with HP. While the finish is beautiful and I like the colors, the overall look is askew - just not naturally appealing to the eye. You can say it's subjective, but there are some elements of design that are not - and I think this car has some of those elements wrong.

I'm not disagreeing with Harry, I'm pointing out that the people that actually own this car may love everything about it including all the aspects we may object to.

 

If you consider the customs that Barris and many other well known customizers are known for from the early 50's and 60's you will find quite a few unpleasant/awkward design elements along with a few that seem timeless in their beauty and execution.

 

It's really a case of "beauty is in the eye of the beholder".