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Moebius 67-71 Ford F100s

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#261 Monty

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 09:17 AM

Hats off to Moebius for taking the initiative in creating these kits. The demand has been there for some time, but despite the long wait, it's probably better that we have these guys working on them. They don't seem to mind receiving input from knowledgeable people, which should result in a better overall kit.

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 09:35 AM

I'm not  a ford guy or even a truck guy. But I will get  a few of these for the stash.

 

If I may , whats a tooling mockup compared to a pre- production piece ?



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Posted 27 March 2013 - 11:57 AM

Looking forward to this release.  I had a '71 back in the day that was rough but ready, started every sub -20 morning in Duluth!



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Posted 27 March 2013 - 01:51 PM

These are one-off pre-tooling mock-up models - In the old days these would be hand made - today they are generated from computer files and cut on CNC machines. These are done to provide a piece that mocks up the kit parts so that we can see how pieces fit together and look at the model as it will appear when it comes out of the steel tool.

After we review these mock-ups the factory will make a number of corrections and we'll review and approve them before we start cutting steel for tooling.

Pre-production - or test shots are produced from the same steel tooling that will produce the finished kit - ususally I'll get 6-8 sets of test shot parts - we use them to check fit of parts - to make sure that everything fits togther and that details are correct - most time there will be corrections made to the first and second sets of test shots usua;lly we'll go through 2-3 sets of test shots before we approve the tooling for mass production.



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Posted 27 March 2013 - 02:25 PM

ANY chance these will have an actual company logo on the tires? 

 

I know that the big boys like Firestone, Goodyear etc, may not be cost effective, but SURELY some of the smaller companies would love to have the chance to see their tires in scale. 



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Posted 27 March 2013 - 03:20 PM

Tom Metzner - Thanks for the info regarding how these "proofs"  were made !

That whole computerised-CNC-machined deal is such a sweet invention . First time I saw a product made in that fashion , I couldn't believe it ! My cousin had some golf Putter 'alignment-shot' deals made from "CNC-Printed" plastic .

 

I had to ask him repeatedly to confirm that the tools were , indeed , "printed" ! Absolutely amazing stuff :)



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Posted 27 March 2013 - 03:30 PM

Mark I'm with you on the tire thing I would love to have a tire with someones company logo even if it was a off brand name I would fork over a little more for it. Tires just don't look right without a name on the side wall. the big brand names sould look at it as a way to get the name out there with youth of tomorrow.



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Posted 27 March 2013 - 03:45 PM

There are ways around having to license a brand name; one only needs to look at the DUNLCP tires in the Meng 1:32 Toyota Hilux kit. ;)

 

One thing I was curious about with Moebius models: is there any rhyme or reason behind the colour of the plastic? Revell kits are all white these days, Round2 seems to be moving away from that awful grey stuff to white, and the Moebius kits are some sort of brown/grey colour (my colours aren't the best).



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Posted 27 March 2013 - 04:19 PM

I would think the color has to with cost .



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Posted 27 March 2013 - 04:37 PM

I believe the color of these is due to material used in the CnC mill to Cut the parts!



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Posted 27 March 2013 - 06:59 PM

I know this is all pre-production, but the 1969 grille should have all the openings the same width, not narrower outside than toward the center.

 

I will be purchasing many of these kits, I already have my Moebius fund started.

 

You're actually thinking of the '67 grill, Tom, with all bars having the same spacing. Check out this grill reference...http://fordification.../67-72ID_01.htm

 

 

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 05:19 AM

When it comes to our choice of injected plastic color - gray is a neutral color - the operating assumption is that these kits will be painted.

White makes it difficult to see any small imperfections that the builder may want to deal with while gray does that less.

We are not foolish enough to believe that every piece of every kit will be perfect so we've tried to choose a neutral color that does not make imperfections too hard to see.

Basic neutral colors have no impact on molding costs. We can shoot the kits in white, gray, tan, light blue - makes no cost difference.

Unless someone can present a strong case for white plastic, my inclination is to stay with the gray.

 

The mock-ups are gray because they have a nice coat of gray primer - the color of the raw material is a light cream / tan..



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Posted 28 March 2013 - 05:25 AM

 

You're actually thinking of the '67 grill, Tom, with all bars having the same spacing. Check out this grill reference...http://fordification.../67-72ID_01.htm

 

 

mike

The '69 looks the same as the '67 in the pics there except the middle horizontal bar is thicker.  One thing I noticed on the tooling mock up pics is the grille on the '69 seems be rounded vertically and bulge out, while the 1:1 seems flatter..



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Posted 28 March 2013 - 09:41 AM

The more I look at those mock-up pics, Dave, the more impressed I get. Your carvers have done a fantastic job!

 

 

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 12:53 PM

 

You're actually thinking of the '67 grill, Tom, with all bars having the same spacing. Check out this grill reference...http://fordification.../67-72ID_01.htm

 

 

mike

I meant vertical rows, not horizontal ones. Your link does a good job of showing exactly what I meant about the '69 grille.



#276 Dave Metzner

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 06:31 PM

The days of hand made mock-ups are gone. These are generated from 3D files on CNC machines..

 

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 07:56 AM

Yeah, I know. I meant that figuratively; what comes out is only as good as what was put in...  ;)

 

mike 



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Posted 01 April 2013 - 06:27 AM

That 300 6 cylinder will be a big draw for me. That will be a basis for a lot of conversions. A true work horse o an engine.

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 02:22 PM

Them 300s are tough as nails! Had one in a 93 f150 xl 5 speed with a levelling kit and 33x12.5 hankkook tires! It was revving high all the time but took every mud hole i trough at it

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 04:13 PM

Dad had an 85 300  with 430,000 miles before the head gasket went south in 4 degree weather . That old truck hauled tons of wood and boats all over . Not just a truck driven like a car. 

But with the new tool coming out I will be able to do a 67 like the first truck he had. Baby blue F100 with a big block. 


Edited by 1930fordpickup, 01 April 2013 - 04:15 PM.