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[Sixx]

Moebius is kicking some butt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hey Dave, how 'bout doing that first gen Bronco????????????????????

[Dominik]

Buddies....i have the Hudsons and Chryslers from Moebius.

THANK YOU GUYS FROM MOEBIUS - thank you for more coming kits! I love those old Pickups...there goes the money but if they are so great like the Hudson...and i am sure...it will be a "must have".

[2000-cvpi]

This is great news, I love the hornet and 300 kits. But this one will be very awesome. I can't wait. Thank you Mr. Metzner for all the hard work you guys are doing.

[Dave Van]

That's really an undeserved and unfair shot at Dave Burket.

He subsidizes the expense of the kits issued as ModelKing exclusives because the kits would not be cost effective for the manufacturer to produce without ModelKing's subsidy. So, he either charges a fair price or you don't get the kit at all.

If you do not want to pay the ModelKing price, don't buy the kit.

But he does not gouge. That's a whole 'nother kind of situation. It does not apply to a businessman trying to recoup his investment.

And, in the case of ModelKing kits, it's an investment the manufacturer was not willing to make on its own.

I am thankful that someone else understands. If folks knew what Dave goes through to get kit produced most folks would not do it. I am privileged to be allowed to help out with Model King and Moebius. My name is on the side of most boxes and decal art. Burket has no agenda but to produce items to move the hobby forward......if you only knew the whole story.....

BTW...the Model KIng Moebius kits cost a little more because we pay the familys of these drivers for the license. We try and give the buyer a little more for their money as we put multiple version options on the decal sheet. Sean does some fantastic art work for the boxes. And Moebius guys are all world class when it comes to plastic models.....we are lucky to have them in this hobby.

Nuff said......

[mikemodeler]

I am not worried about the price, I support Dave and his Model King business as he has brought some models to our hobby that would have otherwise not been around. Do I like to pay $25-30 for a model kit? No, but I will because it is a subject matter that I want to have.

What I have found is that with the rise in the cost of model kits, I am no longer just buying a kit for the sake of buying a kit. I would rather pass on a couple of kits on the clearance shelf at Hobby Lobby and put that money towards something I will definitely build, like these Ford Pickups. I have over 100 kits that I thought made sense at one time to buy and now I am faced with selling them off at shows!

I hope that viscious rumor about a first generation Bronco becomes a fact, because then I will be spending my lunch money faster than I can save it!

[Ben]

Man, this just confirms it! Moebius is my all time, most favorite model company!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can't thank Dave and Moebius enough for the great kits they have made and intend on making. These new Fords will be big! Very big! I know they're going to sell VERY well! I'll be doing everything I can to buy at least one case of each version!!!!!! I'm already scared that I might miss out on the Model King version!!!!!!! I sure hope Dave Burkette has a LOT of them made as I see that shortbed, six cylinder being the most popular of the two kits. How many minutes is it till I have them in my grubby lil paws?????? Tick tock, tick tock......

[Casey]

This is great news for us pickup builders for sure! I just really hope Dave Burket doesn't gouge us on the price for the '69 short bed.

Are you hinting at the prices the '78/9 Ford 4x4 which Model King did a few years ago commanded not too long after it was released? I think that was more a case of pent up demand and the secondary marketplace setting the price. Very similar (though on a slightly longer timescale) to what happened to the RC2 reissue of the '84 GMC 4x4 kit...and maybe what will happen with the sold out/DC'd 1/16 Monogram Pete SSP kit.

[Michigan Madman]

The '79 Camper Special did get marked up- there really wasn't much Dave could have done about that. Once the shops and vendors get them, they can pretty much charge whatever they want as long as people will pay it. I remember seeing the kit listed on Dave's flyer at the time (what was that- 2006 or therabouts?) for $20 or so, but I never saw one on a hobby shop shelf for less than $25. And they've gone up considerably since they were discontinued. Still, you're paying less for the MK reissue than you would for a mint original kit. I'm pretty sure that will continue to happen, but there really isn't much Dave (or Moebius for that matter) can really do about it. The markups didn't seem to be as bad on the Tim Flock Hudsons and Chryslers, but again, I think quite a few vendors mark them up simply because they're special editions.

Edited by Michigan Madman, 09 October 2012 - 02:22 PM.

[Ron Hamilton]

Thank you Mobius and Dave "Model King" Burkett for having the foresight to bring these gems to us. As someone who has bought quite a few of the Model King kits in the past, I feel that Dave's pricing is very fair for the risk and effort put forth by him. I will have to buy at least one two of each. Go get 'em!!!!!!

[tooltas]

a long time the wallmart had kits and they had a about 6new kits of 84 gmc truck in the chicker boxs

i want the 71 foord 100/150 too

[plowboy]

Are you hinting at the prices the '78/9 Ford 4x4 which Model King did a few years ago commanded not too long after it was released? I think that was more a case of pent up demand and the secondary marketplace setting the price. Very similar (though on a slightly longer timescale) to what happened to the RC2 reissue of the '84 GMC 4x4 kit...and maybe what will happen with the sold out/DC'd 1/16 Monogram Pete SSP kit.

Not only that kit,but just about every one released under the "Model King" label. The '72 Blazer and the Racer's Wedge and Camper were overpriced also. I especially didn't like having to buy a Cougar funny car and trailer just to get a Bronco. It's odd that you could buy the funny car separate,but you couldn't buy the Bronco separate. To me, he's just a middle man that's throwing another company's product into his box,then charging whatever he wants. Sorry, but I'm not paying extra $ just for a box. I would pay an extra $5 for the short bed, but anything over that, I'll just do without it. I'll have plenty of the '71 long beds to keep me busy.

[mikemodeler]

Not only that kit,but just about every one released under the "Model King" label. The '72 Blazer and the Racer's Wedge and Camper were overpriced also. I especially didn't like having to buy a Cougar funny car and trailer just to get a Bronco. It's odd that you could buy the funny car separate,but you couldn't buy the Bronco separate. To me, he's just a middle man that's throwing another company's product into his box,then charging whatever he wants. Sorry, but I'm not paying extra $ just for a box. I would pay an extra $5 for the short bed, but anything over that, I'll just do without it. I'll have plenty of the '71 long beds to keep me busy.

Roger,

In most cases, Dave had to get the tooling fixed in order to run these kits. Add in the fact that he had to pay upfront and THEN sell them and hopefully you will understand why the prices were what they were. Yes, it wasn't fun to buy a Bronco and Funny Car kit to get the Bronco, but I lucked out and found people to trade with to make it even for both sides. There was a considerable financial risk taken by Dave, RC/Round 2 was not going to release these kits, and he made many modelers happy by doing so.
The reality of life is that new model kits will not be $10 anymore and given the current economy, I am extremely surprised at the number of new tools and re-issues that have been announced! I will be buying a bunch more kits, these Ford trucks among them, partly to support the efforts of these companies but more so to satisfy my wants for subject matter not offered before.

Like many things in life, consumers vote with their pocketbooks and if the prices are too much for you and others, then the product won't sell. But I have a good feeling these will be very popular and good sellers.

[Daf57]

I'm excited about the new Moebius truck kit! And the 1st styrene inline 300ci in a lonnnnnggg time! I hope it's released soon! Thanks for the heads up on this!

[Chuck Kourouklis]

Well thank you Daves Metzner, Van, and Burkett! Far as vehicles sticking with me from my youth, this one hits me far squarer than any colonnade or G-body.

Meantime, I'll just whistle innocently and float a bug in y'all's ears about an early- to mid-sixties Ford styleside, maybe wonder aloud if "series" might encompass something like that...

[Fat Brian]

Yes, a 65 would be very nice.

[Michigan Madman]

Far as vehicles sticking with me from my youth, this one hits me far squarer than any colonnade or G-body.

Same here. Between the '69 and '71 kits, I should have more than enough main ingredients to FINALLY replicate my grandfather's '68 Custom Cab longbox- the first Bumpside to play a significant role in my life. My great uncle pretty much owned a series of these, even though I can only personally remember a couple of them.

Given Moebius' track record with bringing out variants of its existing car kits, and the fact every automotive release from them is better than the last, I think there will be quite a few varaitions on the Bumpside theme from Moebius in the coming years. Not a bad deal at all, if you ask this cat.

[Chuck Kourouklis]

I was just stoked enough with the one my Dad's friend had, that the impression stuck with me.

We also once rented a U-Haul that I recognized instantly as bumpside Ford cab even at six years old, and I was like, OOOOOOOOOOOOH...

[Casey429]

How did I miss this? Count me in! My grandpap bought a brand new 1970 F100 Ranger XLT longbed, black, 2WD with a 360 and 3 on the tree. Then my dad traded it in for a new 77 F-250, which I still have (albeit in pieces lol). I've only seen one picture of it, but pap should be able to fill in any gaps. I can't wait!

[kataranga]

I hope these are in the same scale as the AMT 61-63 F-100s. I want to use the pieces I have left over to replicate this bed that as sold in Argentina:

[Michigan Madman]

I hope these are in the same scale as the AMT 61-63 F-100s. I want to use the pieces I have left over to replicate this bed that as sold in Argentina:

I'm assuming Moebius will produce these in 1:25, so you should be good there... IF the old AMT kits were close to their listed 1:25.