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[Maindrian Pace]

The body color side moldings were on the '92-'93 LX's only, '91 still had the black moldings.

 

Tips for builders for year accuracy:

 

'87-'88 - Build as is out of box, black moldings, delete mass air meter, use two spoke non-airbag wheel from MPC '87-'88 GT kit

 

'89 - Same as '87-'88, add mass air meter

 

'90 - Same as '89, add airbag wheel

 

'91 - Same as '90, add five spoke wheels from Monogram '92 GT convertible, someone should have them in resin by then, if not already

 

'92-'93 - Same as '91, body color side moldings.

 

Note - '87-'92 gray interiors were all Titanium gray, '93 only had Opal gray, a darker and bluer gray color.

 

-MJS

[niteowl7710]

 

'91 - Same as '90, add five spoke wheels from Monogram '92 GT convertible, someone should have them in resin by then, if not already

 

 

The only inherent problem there is the mixing of scale issues.  Has anyone actually put those wheels under an AMT Mustang to see how large they look?

[Abell82]

Even if you had, it would still be pure speculation that the 2 kits would be the same size.

[niteowl7710]

Even if you had, it would still be pure speculation that the 2 kits would be the same size.

 

I suppose you're right, but it would give one the idea as to how 1:24 wheels would look under a 1:25 car. 

[whale392]

You absolutely sure about that body molding color year, Mike? Because the factory literature I do have lists 91 as the first year for the LX Coupe getting body colored side molding.

 

The Pony wheels in the 1/24th scale mustangs scale out to 15" versus the 16" they should be. So, by putting them under a 1/25th scale car, they will more closely represent the 16" wheel they are supposed to be.

 

On the Mass Air Meter, if you were doing a California car, you would be able to do a 1988 as well with the optional parts Mike listed. (As California got MAF in 1988 while the rest of the nation had to wait until 89)

 

In the GTs, 1990 didn't have the armrest pad in the center console (I believe the LXs were the same way). The armrest returned in 1991-93.

 

Pony wheels (the 16" wheel) became standard on all LX 5.0s from 1991-on. The ten-holes became an SSP equipment list item, same as the Lies-Neveille (spelling is more than likely incorrect) 130amp alternator and the Silicone coolant hose kit. Later examples had beefed-up floorpans and revised Lower Control Arms (from the 4cyl fleet/taxi use bin in place of the 5.0L units).

 

 

As I have already stated, if you want a good breakdown of SSP by year, check out www.sspmustang.org. Places like Corral.net, foxbodyforum.com, foureyedpride.com, ultimatefoxbody.com, and several others are good places to look for your civilian LX 5.0L Coupe info.

Edited by whale392, 19 February 2013 - 12:39 PM.

[whale392]

And you can 'convert' any non-SSP car into an SSP clone by installing the Ford Motorsports/Ford Racing/FRPP Silicone Cooling Hose kit, Heavy Duty rear Lower Control Arm kit, and a 1994-95 GT/V6 alternator (which will require converting your two-wire charging system to a later one-wire (and you will have to clearance your alternator bracket to clear the deeper case). EVERY Fox I have had has the first basic mods done: 130 amp alternator/1-wire conversion, 93+ mini-starter, Heavy Duty LCAs, and bumped timing/TPS adjustment, and a 5-lug swap (using 94-95 parts up front and the Ranger rear axle swap in the rear. I later swap the rears to disc and use the axle/brake disc/brake bracket combo that suits my wheel choice/axle choice/available wheel house room).

 

Then the first real mod is to have the car pulled completely straight and go in and add through-the-floor subframe connectors with the seat pan brace, rear torque box braces, and jacking rails/matrix system.

[Maindrian Pace]

 

The only inherent problem there is the mixing of scale issues.  Has anyone actually put those wheels under an AMT Mustang to see how large they look?

 

Here they are on an MPC '84.

 

Stock tires from the GT convert kit:

 

 

 

 

On a lower profile set of Gatorbacks. I don't remember what kit these came from at the moment, but I have four of them.

 

 

 

 

Compare to my '92 LX driver with stock size 225/55/16s:

 

 

 

Almost exact. Ride height and a slight adjustment to the shape of the wheel well would be all it takes.

You absolutely sure about that body molding color year, Mike? Because the factory literature I do have lists 91 as the first year for the LX Coupe getting body colored side molding.

 

The Pony wheels in the 1/24th scale mustangs scale out to 15" versus the 16" they should be. So, by putting them under a 1/25th scale car, they will more closely represent the 16" wheel they are supposed to be.

 

Positive on the moldings, many have been painted body color over the years for an update. I just touched on the major visual changes from year to year, there were many more: Seats and headrests, interior color and upholstery patterns, paint colors, rear seat shoulder belts, door panel pockets, etc. A little research would be required to make a year-accurate model.

 

-MJS

[Rob Hall]

 

 

Positive on the moldings, many have been painted body color over the years for an update. I just touched on the major visual changes from year to year, there were many more: Seats and headrests, interior color and upholstery patterns, paint colors, rear seat shoulder belts, door panel pockets, etc. A little research would be required to make a year-accurate model.

 

-MJS

Yes, lots of running changes and year-to-year differences..the '90 Mustangs, for instance, added the air bag steering wheel and knee pad, but eliminated the center arm rest.. but it came back in '91 IIRC.  Also, the pony emblem on the right side of the dash was added somewhere around '90, my '87 GT didn't have it (though I later added it). 

Edited by Rob Hall, 20 February 2013 - 03:30 AM.

[whale392]

Same here, Mike. Just touching on some of the smaller things about the cars. 

 

Your tire swap on the Ponies is a perfect example of what I was saying about the scale fidelity issue on the Revell 1/24th Pony Wheels. They are quite accurate for 1/25th scale and with a tire change I see them being used a lot with the Coupe kit.

 

 

Rob, my 91 has a lot of 'inconsistencies' involved with it too (or at least it did with its' first and second owners). Then again, my GT is a base model GT with NO options, so that might have something to do with the discrepancies.

Edited by whale392, 20 February 2013 - 11:33 AM.

[Abell82]

The 1990 7- up Mustangs were LX's. Though they were convertibles, and limited run cars ... they had body color trim.

 

Exceptions to every rule?

[whale392]

That edition gave them the idea (and visual gratification/qualification) to switch from the Black belt molding to the body colored molding. Same concept as the 'Summer Special' cars.

[ModlerChris1987]

When is it coming out?

[martinfan5]

When is it coming out?

Sometime in 2013

 

Or read back a few pages, there are some pretty good guess's as to when it might be released

[mrknowetall]

Release date (according to Revell) is May.  Late May, so figure early April before they're seen in stores (earlier for those signed up for Revell's Preferred Partner program). 

[SteveG]

Release date (according to Revell) is May.  Late May, so figure early April before they're seen in stores (earlier for those signed up for Revell's Preferred Partner program). 

 

Don,

 

You mean early June in stores right ? .......

[Cali Bear]

This is awesome news for a builder like me that missed the boat on the resin Fox-body notchbacks.  Can't wait to get this kit on the build schedule in CHP colors.  Mahalo, dude, for breaking the news!

[mrknowetall]

 

Don,

 

You mean early June in stores right ? .......

Duhh.  Yep. 

[Agent G]

This is awesome news for a builder like me that missed the boat on the resin Fox-body notchbacks.  Can't wait to get this kit on the build schedule in CHP colors.  Mahalo, dude, for breaking the news!

 

CHP, NHP, MSHP, FHP, MSP, AZDPS, TXDPS, and a whole buncha letters of the alphabet!

 

G

[niteowl7710]

 
CHP, NHP, MSHP, FHP, MSP, AZDPS, TXDPS, and a whole buncha letters of the alphabet!
 
G

Without sourcing dozens of steering wheels to backdate the interior (prior to '90 there was no airbag), there are 33 State/Federal agencies that are known to have run '90-'93 SSP Mustangs.

[English Jules]

so nice, i have lots of US cop car books (my fave is a 79 Camaro, 12 used by CHP, read all about em. i made it from the revell T bar kit, had to change and scrach so much new interior...)

Again, as soon as this is out in the US, PLEASE let me know and take some fotos..... :-)