1958 Plymouth experts
Posted 26 October 2012 - 10:11 AM
This is in regards to the AMT 1958 Belvedere/Fury kit. Those of you who know the kit well and are knowledgeable about the real cars. Please post here with what is wrong/right about the kit as it pertains to 1958 Plymouth Fury's.
Posted 26 October 2012 - 01:56 PM
Posted 26 October 2012 - 02:02 PM
There is another thread somewhere that goes into greater detail and I suspect this thread may be moved to it .
Posted 26 October 2012 - 02:33 PM
Harry posted these on the other thread.......
Edited by Ace-Garageguy, 26 October 2012 - 03:48 PM.
Posted 26 October 2012 - 02:47 PM
Posted 26 October 2012 - 02:50 PM
Posted 26 October 2012 - 02:57 PM
I also should have been clearer. OTHER than the documented body issues- what about the interior/chassis/engine? Is there anything there the AMT kit needs to be more accurate?
Let's remember the board rules and keep it clean guys.
You guys will have to help me out with the greenhouse...i'm still not seeing it.
Edited by Futurabat, 26 October 2012 - 03:10 PM.
Posted 26 October 2012 - 03:45 PM
Posted 26 October 2012 - 04:03 PM
Posted 26 October 2012 - 04:07 PM
I'm not sure if you're funnin me. I don't see any rivets at all.
The rivets on the greenhouse are just too small....can you see it now?
Posted 26 October 2012 - 05:43 PM
I think an overlay would still be beneficial as the 'greenhouse' looks off on the kit also?
If you look closely at the photo that Bill reposted above, you can see that on the real car the side window openings top and bottom are parallel until you get to the B pillar area (or where the B pillar would be if this car had a B pillar!), where the roof line begins to curve downward to where it meets the rear fender. To my eyes, on the model this roofline curve begins too soon, so that the side window openings top and bottom are not parallel. The whole roof looks slightly "smooshed" down. It's not horribly off, but to me it's very obvious (but only when you see it side by side with the real thing, as in the photo). Not sure if this would even be evident on the model if you look at the kit without seeing the real thing to compare to.
Posted 26 October 2012 - 07:19 PM
Fury's were all buckskin beige with gold trim- not as "textured" as the optional aluminum inserts on the Belvedere
The kit interior pattern is a bit "off" for any Plymouth model
Posted 27 October 2012 - 12:16 AM
Chris, I have the proper twin carbs and cleaners already so we're good there. Where do I look for the best possible 318 without going to a Ross Gibson?
I know the interior was customised a bit, so i'm going to start researching that next after I get back from Dayton today. If anyone has pics they can post it would sure ly help. In the meantime here is what I have of a Christine movie used car.
Edited by Futurabat, 27 October 2012 - 12:17 AM.
Posted 27 October 2012 - 12:37 AM
The other divisions for '58 went to the more "bubble shaped" windshields. Now the drawback is the '59 Dodges can be a bit hard to obtain. I was fortunate years ago when I got a couple kits including a spare body from Okey Spaulding at an NNL who happened to have several on hand. I won't part with 'em because they're the only models that offer the correct 1957-'59 Mopar 2 door hardtop roofline.
One tiny detail that the '59 Dodge roof section doesn't have is this-------the chrome moulding that stretches from the A pillars to the C pillars, doesn't have the "strakes" in them per the 1:1. I don't know how you replicate that. At least the RC2 kit roof as incorrect as it is, does have this detail.
Hope this helps!
Posted 28 October 2012 - 01:06 AM
Edited by Yahshu, 28 October 2012 - 03:40 AM.
Posted 28 October 2012 - 04:37 AM
Then I tried some screen caps. My Powerdvd is glitching so I literally took pictures from the TV.
I actually have the twin carbs and air cleaners and they're in the molds right now. Does anyone have a good pic of the decal on the valve covers?
Posted 28 October 2012 - 08:03 AM
Curse Racing Champions for taking what could have been one of the best kits in AMT's catalog and completely bolloxing it. Oh well, I'll use the chassis under a Modelhaus '57 Savoy 4-door, and nobody can see the engine from the bottom on a curbside.
Perhaps someday, someone will have enough appetite to try again and this time, do it right.
Posted 28 October 2012 - 08:05 AM
Though the air cleaners are similar, they're two different, distinct engines.
Posted 28 October 2012 - 08:10 AM