Cementing problems
Started by Psychographic, Oct 27 2012 10:32 AM
6 replies to this topic
#1
Posted 27 October 2012 - 10:32 AM
I have two specific problems with cementing parts that I hope I can get help with.
I normally use straight MEK for cementing. I also have Plastruct Bondene for things I need to set faster, both have the same problems.
I have no luck cementing Plastuct Styrene, it might hold but there is no strength whatsoever. and usually it winds up breaking off. I have even sanded it first in case there was a release agent or something preventing the bond.
My second problem is with small diameter rod and half round from Evergreen. This problem is when I try to cement a tight curve the styrene will just snap when the cement is applied.
Any suggestions on either problem?
I normally use straight MEK for cementing. I also have Plastruct Bondene for things I need to set faster, both have the same problems.
I have no luck cementing Plastuct Styrene, it might hold but there is no strength whatsoever. and usually it winds up breaking off. I have even sanded it first in case there was a release agent or something preventing the bond.
My second problem is with small diameter rod and half round from Evergreen. This problem is when I try to cement a tight curve the styrene will just snap when the cement is applied.
Any suggestions on either problem?
#2
Posted 27 October 2012 - 11:22 AM
I use testors tube glue for evergreen and dont have problems, maybe try that and see if it helps
#3
Posted 27 October 2012 - 11:23 AM
Try using a little less glue. Sounds as if you may be using too much? This will cause the plastic to become too soft.
#4
Posted 27 October 2012 - 11:34 AM
Some Plastruct products are butyrate plastic rather than styrene, and solvent-type adhesives don't work very well on them. The only reason I noticed was when I had problems similar to yours. As far as I recall, I've not had problems with the solvents you mentioned with straight styrene.
#5
Posted 27 October 2012 - 11:52 AM
You aren't the only one with these problems . Particularly with the Plastruct items . The shapes that I've bought are a dark grey color ( ABS ) and nothing seems to work . Plastruct sells "Plastic Weld" which is suppossed to bond ABS to Styrene to butyrate plastics . I've never bought it because I figured I didn't need another cement sitting around . maybe it is the answer . Lately I avoid buying anythng that isn't styrene .
As for the small styrene rod snapping when MEK is applied , it is very frustrating . I've started to use small dabs of super glue to locate the rod in position , then go back afterwards with the MEK to permanently bond it in place . This seems to solve the problem , maybe since the rod is already stressed and set in place before it is applied .
I hope this helps .
As for the small styrene rod snapping when MEK is applied , it is very frustrating . I've started to use small dabs of super glue to locate the rod in position , then go back afterwards with the MEK to permanently bond it in place . This seems to solve the problem , maybe since the rod is already stressed and set in place before it is applied .
I hope this helps .
Edited by TooOld, 27 October 2012 - 12:02 PM.
#6
Posted 30 October 2012 - 04:18 AM
I use Testors glue in the orange tube for everything l do works excellent...
#7
Posted 30 October 2012 - 05:50 AM
I use testors tube glue for evergreen and dont have problems, maybe try that and see if it helps
I use Testors glue in the orange tube for everything l do works excellent...
*shudders* Oh man that's nasty stuff. Switch to a Zap-a-Gap type CA glue and you will never look back.
The Plastic Weld from Plastruct does work well with Plastruct products but it does take time. I think Bob has the right of it though. Tack it front, rear and in a curve with CA glue and use the solvent for the rest.












