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#21 2002p51

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 06:30 AM

And you just know some wise guy is going to post this here:

As far as bad grammer, I could care less.

:lol:


As far as bad grammar, I could care less, I've got a build to finish, it's a nascar.

And now I'm going to kill my self! :blink:

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 06:33 AM

if you have enough scratch.........you can have anything built.

just kiddin'.

I feed the chickens scratch every morning. I had no idea you could build builds with it :D

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 06:33 AM

Actually I could care more, but I don't.

When I am at my workbench, I'm always building and scratching.

#24 Harry P.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 06:38 AM

As far as bad grammar, I could care less, I've got a build to finish, it's a nascar.


Man, Drew, what a dope you are. Everyone knows it's "I have a build to finish, it's a nascar.'

Didn't they teach you nuthin in 3rd grade?

:P :lol:

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 06:48 AM

Thank you Harry, I was just on my way over to an on-line dictionary.

As a writer, using the word "build" as a noun is just like fingernails on a chalkboard to me.

It's most common (and most excepted) use is as a verb:...


Seriously? Two mistakes in a sentence criticizing other people...from a writer?


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Posted 19 November 2012 - 07:02 AM

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 07:06 AM

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. . . and now back to our regular program.

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Lots of scratch building in these ole R n' C issues.

#28 2002p51

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 07:11 AM

Seriously? Two mistakes in a sentence criticizing other people...from a writer?


You're right, I was going too fast. I found excepted instead of accepted, what's the other one?

Does it really matter?


Yes, words, and how they are used, matter.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 07:36 AM

OKAY ! Get that dictionary out again and look up "scratch built" , this is th picture you'll find: http://www.craftsman...om/wingrove.htm

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 07:51 AM

You're right, I was going too fast. I found excepted instead of accepted, what's the other one?


You used "it's" (it is) instead of "its." ;)

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 08:12 AM

You used "it's" (it is) instead of "its." ;)


Oh yea, poop, I do that one all the time! :P

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 08:20 AM

Oh yea, poop, I do that one all the time! :P


I think you need to stay after class and write this sentence on the board 100 times:

You're supposed to remember that it's your job use good grammar because good grammar is its own reward.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 08:23 AM

I'm going to have to start checking this forum earlier in the morning; it seems all the excitement starts before 8 AM...... B) B) B)

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 08:30 AM

Actually I could care more, but I don't.

When I am at my workbench, I'm always building and scratching.




Yikes!!!

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 08:39 AM

We'll just have to agree to disagree about using "build" as a noun, Harry. But a little part of me sighs whenever someone makes the past tense of the verb cast into casted. English has always been a mongrel language, so there isn't much use in trying to tame it now.


Back on track: In some circles, being a scratchbuilder is not necessarily a term of endearment. There are some guys who are master modelers but just out-and-out a-holes when it comes to people skills. They see the hobby as being made up primarily of them on one side and "kit assemblers" on the other.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 08:42 AM

Because some people don't know the meaning of "scratchbuilt."

Taking some brass sheet, some aluminum rod and tubing, and maybe some bits and pieces of styrene sheet and channel, etc., and making a funny car chassis with that material is an example of a scratchbuilt chassis.

Taking the body and interior from one kit, the wheels and tires from your spare parts box, the engine from another kit, etc., and putting it all together is an example of a "kitbashed" model. No scratchbuilding involved.

Of course it gets messy when you scratchbuild a chassis and add it to your kitbashed model... in which case I'll leave the definition of that to someone else! "Scratchbashed," maybe? :D



And while we're at it ...

One that drags my nails across the chalkboard is the improper use of the term 'kit' or 'kits' when referring to completed models.

If it is a package of unassembled parts, it is a kit.

Once it is assembled, it is no longer a kit, it has become a model.

Drives me nuts to hear someone refers to completed models as 'kits.'

This past weekend we conducted a large model contest and show. A couple of overheard comments were, "Wow! Those are great looking kits." There were no kits anywhere in sight, but we did have a lot of great looking models on display.


B)

Its ... it's ... your ... you're ... kit ... model.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 08:43 AM

Does it really matter? Like Rat Rod does it really Matter? lets just say it was built by mr. So & So, and he calls it HumDinger, so what's in a Name anyWho?


Yes, it does matter, at least to me. Scratch-building is an art form, and usually requires a bit of extra effort and skill to achieve good results.
When someone claims to have scratch-built something and it is really just modified from existing parts, (or worse taking credit for someone else's work), I find it insulting to those who actually do scratch-build.
What if you bought a die cast and claimed you built it from a kit? How different is that from claiming you scratch-built something you didn't?
Seems like a lot of people use the term to bolster the sound of what they have made, or are just ignorant of the true meaning of the term.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 08:51 AM

Scratch-building ...
Seems like a lot of people use the term to bolster the sound of what they have made, or are just ignorant of the true meaning of the term.



A lot of people throw around the term 'scratchbuilding' in order to self-aggrandize their work. It's the people who are ignorant of the true meaning of the term ~ or, too lazy to adhere to the true meaning ~ who enable the first group.

Much like most language/grammar/syntax violations, allowing improper usage to go uncorrected or unchallenged merely reinforces the acceptance of bad language/grammar/syntax and eventual blurring of the lines through common misuse.

:mellow:

Edited by Danno, 19 November 2012 - 08:52 AM.


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Posted 19 November 2012 - 09:18 AM

IMO, THIS is scratch built - pure and simple. And I am in awe everytime I ck updates

http://www.modelcars...opic=53895&st=0

Edited by gtx6970, 19 November 2012 - 09:18 AM.


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Posted 19 November 2012 - 09:26 AM

I will add one more example of scratch built, I will share my 99% scratch built trailer I built it using evergreen stock, the only parts from a kit are the tires/wheels, and P/E door handles
http://s1000.photobu...erlite Trailer/