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#61 Danno

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 01:02 PM

I think Ace was speaking 'tongue-in-cheek,' which is an ironic or mildly sarcastic version of 'speaker-inside-dog.' :P


"I supplied all the Parts ..."


And, sorry, Michael, but if you supplied "all the parts" to the builder, he is NOT scratchbuilding a model for you. He might be assembling one. He might scratchbuild other portions of it. But if you ~ or anyone else ~ provides "all the parts" he cannot scratchbuilt it. Period.

"Scratchbuilding" is mutually exclusive of any form of 'out of box' or kitbashing or assembling of parts.


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Posted 19 November 2012 - 01:05 PM

Nope, this is Grammar 101.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 01:07 PM

Nope, this is Grammar 101.


It's now Language Theory, and it's a graduate level course.

#64 Harry P.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 01:09 PM

Does anyone know of a model car forum around here?


Try looking "Under Glass" or "On the Workbench" or in "Big Boyz" or "Car Kit Reviews" or the Trucks section or "Model Building Q&A," just for starters. This is the "General" section.

#65 Fat Brian

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 01:14 PM

It's now Language Theory, and it's a graduate level course.


Wow, even the name of the thing that teaches you how to use names can't stick with it's own.

Edited by Fat Brian, 19 November 2012 - 01:14 PM.


#66 Ace-Garageguy

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 01:14 PM

Try looking "Under Glass" or "On the Workbench" or in "Big Boyz" or "Car Kit Reviews" or the Trucks section or "Model Building Q&A," just for starters. This is the "General" section.


Now I understand my problem here. I'm not a general. :mellow:

#67 Ace-Garageguy

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 01:15 PM

Wow, even the name of the thing that teaches you how to use names can't stick with it's own.


Ah glasshopper, life is change........

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 01:19 PM

So why is it when you smack somebody up the side of the head and he says "That smarts!", but he obviously isn't any smarter......?

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 01:33 PM

And in the very same post you used the word "build" as a noun which is also incorrect. I'm just sayin' :D/>

But of course you're not alone in this. The incorrect usage of build has become so common as to be almost acceptable. Drives me crazy though. I have hundreds of completed models and several ongoing projects, but nary a "build" in the bunch!

............Remember when coffee was strictly a noun ? l've never "coffeed" with anyone. Terminology is constantly changing. l assume you don't use scissors & glue to cut & paste on a computer? l also am bothered at times by the misuse of scratch built. But how literally are we to take this ? Do l need to be a chemist to make my own plastic, or a metallurgist to smelt or forge my own metal parts ? It would be nice if scratch built stayed the way it is now: fabricating your own parts from existing materials, but l fear this special word will continue to evolve just as our beloved hobby has. Sometimes you gotta take the good with the bad. Bart.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 01:47 PM

jeeze ......... bet youse guys are a lot of fun to party with ............

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 01:48 PM

............Remember when coffee was strictly a noun ? l've never "coffeed" with anyone. Terminology is constantly changing. l assume you don't use scissors & glue to cut & paste on a computer? l also am bothered at times by the misuse of scratch built. But how literally are we to take this ? Do l need to be a chemist to make my own plastic, or a metallurgist to smelt or forge my own metal parts ? It would be nice if scratch built stayed the way it is now: fabricating your own parts from existing materials, but l fear this special word will continue to evolve just as our beloved hobby has. Sometimes you gotta take the good with the bad. Bart.


You make a good point about cut & paste on the computer, but since the term and the actions of Scratch-Building is still the same as it was decades ago, I don’t think letting it evolve into an inaccurately used term should be considered acceptable.
For example, this is a scratch-built brass hood, even though I used store bought solder.
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 01:55 PM

Wow, even the name of the thing that teaches you how to use names can't stick with it's own.


No apostrophe in its. Should be "its own." Possessive, not a contraction. Hey, you get into a grammatical showdown, you gotta be right.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 01:57 PM

This is starting to turn into who has the biggest hot dog ;)
:lol:

#74 Harry P.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 02:00 PM

This is starting to turn into who has the biggest hot dog ;)
:lol:


Everyone knows that Oscar Mayer does... :P

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 02:00 PM

No apostrophe in its. Should be "its own." Possessive, not a contraction. Hey, you get into a grammatical showdown, you gotta be right.


You are correct, I have nothing to offer in my defense and beg for the mercy of the court.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 02:02 PM

jeeze ......... bet youse guys are a lot of fun to party with ............

I sincerely hope that's sarcasm. ;)

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 02:03 PM

This is starting to turn into who has the biggest hot dog ;)
:lol:


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Posted 19 November 2012 - 02:56 PM

Is that anything like a dangling participle?

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 03:08 PM

well I consider what I do as being scratchbuilt. The only thing not is the engines, wheels and tires. the body, chassis and all other accoutrements are totally scratchbuilt from Evergreen stock and whatever else material wise I can find to use.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 03:28 PM

Is that anything like a dangling participle?


Remember the Seinfeld episode where Kramer was enjoying dangling participles?

"I'm out there, Jerry... and I'm loving it!"

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