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[Ace-Garageguy]

I'm surprised no one has commented on post 103, above. If you don't know that stuff, you don't know real scratchbuilt.

I've seen that work before...it's exquisite, the real deal, and so far beyond my ability now....well, like I said, it's the real deal. Thanks for posting the links. It's good to have a reminder of something so incredibly inspiring.

[Darin Bastedo]

And in the very same post you used the word "build" as a noun which is also incorrect. I'm just sayin'

But of course you're not alone in this. The incorrect usage of build has become so common as to be almost acceptable. Drives me crazy though. I have hundreds of completed models and several ongoing projects, but nary a "build" in the bunch!

Well actually it appears you can use "build as a noun...Just sayin'

build(bld)
v. built (blt), build·ing, builds
v.tr.

1. To form by combining materials or parts; construct.

2. To order, finance, or supervise the construction of: The administration built several new housing projects.

3. To develop or give form to according to a plan or process; create: build a nation; built a successful business out of their corner grocery store.

4. To increase or strengthen by adding gradually to: money building interest in a savings account; build support for a political candidate.

5. To establish a basis for; found or ground: build an argument on fact.

v.intr.

1. To make something by combining materials or parts.

2. To engage in the construction or design of buildings: "Each of the three architects built in a different style" (Dwight Macdonald).

3. To develop in magnitude or extent: clouds building on the horizon.

4. To progress toward a maximum, as of intensity: suspense building from the opening scene to the climax.

n.

1. The physical makeup of a person or thing; physique: an athletic build.

2. Computer Science Any of various versions of a software product as it is being developed for release to users.

[Harry P.]

Well actually it appears you can use "build as a noun...Just sayin'

That was covered in post #12.

Just sayin'...

[Bartster]

jeeze ......... bet youse guys are a lot of fun to party with ............

...........l am. l scratch-brew my own beer !!!!

[Scale-Master]

While you guys have been discussing, I have been doing.

[martinfan5]

While you guys have been discussing, I have been doing.

Same here, ok not really ,but I have been working on some builds, I know!, what a concept

[Scale-Master]

Hey wait a minute. I think you have something there.

Yes, Revell does make scratch built kits. They take plastic materials and they make a kit out of it.

So most of us do build scratch built kits.

I don't think so Jim, at least not with Revell or other injection molded kit producers.
It is not one person producing (mass-producing at that) those kits. There are pattern-makers, mold-makers, and people who run the production machines...

Now if you look at a small company like Fischer Models (off the top of my head), here you have the pattern-maker, mold-maker and production molder possibly all being one person. In that case your analogy can work.

Edited by Scale-Master, 21 November 2012 - 07:02 AM.

[johnbuzzed]

Scratch and sniff, anyone ?

[Ace-Garageguy]

I'm all itchy from grinding fiberglass. Maybe that's what's really meant by scratch-building.

Edited by Ace-Garageguy, 21 November 2012 - 09:10 AM.

[Skip]

Veering back to the rabbit trail of this thread.

I hate it when people (car hobbiests) use the term "tranny" in lieu of Transmission. I once worked with a gentleman who preferred to be addressed as being a "Tranny" (his term not mine). When you put a tranny in your car or model would it be the one shifting or shifted? Either way it is used it is still like fingernails screeching down a chalkboard! Normally when someone attempts to insert tranny into a conversation I say something like "You mean transmission or transvestite?".

Weighing in on the intended topic of this thread..

The term Scratch Built is used too freely when used to describe whether the model is entirely, partially or includes scratch built items. To me that is where the term should be defined by the its user. i.e. "this model is 100% scratch built", "this model is about half scratch built" or "this model has scratch built parts or assembelies". If the term is qualified in that way I have no issue with it.

[Danno]

Same with "dizzy." I've been a car guy for more than 5 decades and only recently heard one person incessantly refer to a distributor as a "dizzy" ... and insist it was a common term. I don't think I've been under a rock ...

[Harry P.]

Same with "dizzy." I've been a car guy for more than 5 decades and only recently heard one person incessantly refer to a distributor as a "dizzy" ... and insist it was a common term. I don't think I've been under a rock ...

How do you feel about the term "Johnson rod?"

[Scale-Master]

How do you feel about the term "Johnson rod?"

Sounds like something on a tranny...

[Ace-Garageguy]

I gots to agree with Danno...I live this stuff and I've never heard anyone who has ever actually worked on a distributor call it a dizzy.

Hmmmm....how about a dizzy tranny with a big dangling participle?

[Scale-Master]

I wonder if some of those terms come from magazines trying to be colorful. Things like bump-stick (Cam) and loud pedal, (Throttle) come to mind. I don't hear real people talking and using those terms.

[Monty]

I hate it when people (car hobbiests)...

Hi! Just thought I'd drop by and fix that word for you. Here's the one you want:

hob·by·ist/ˈhäbēist/

Noun: A person who pursues a particular hobby: "a computer hobbyist".
More info »Merriam-Webster - The Free Dictionary

I'm kind of a word hobbyist

[Skip]

Hi! Just thought I'd drop by and fix that word for you. Here's the one you want:

hob·by·ist/ˈhäbēist/

Noun: A person who pursues a particular hobby: "a computer hobbyist".
More info »Merriam-Webster - The Free Dictionary

I'm kind of a word hobbyist

You, sir are absolutely correct. My smart phone isn’t so smart after all. Seriously I have spellcheck on every computer at home and (especially) at work but not on my iPhone, there must be an app for that.

You think Drew, Harry and certain word hobbyists are rough to let a misspelled word slip by, try it with engineers. Though they don’t wrap your knuckles with a yardstick they prefer to use the highlighter and remark functions to completely embarrass their intended target.

One embarrassing "spelling moment occurred" back when I was a sign writer. A rather proud Dad of a soon to graduate psychology major with her doctorate came in the shop and asked if we could do a “shingle” with her name and Psychoanalyst on it. After finishing the real shingle varnishing it to a high sheen and hand lettering the script my boss suggested that I might want to invest in a dictionary, psychologist was not spelled “Psycologist”! I am still reminded of it to this day whenever I see my old boss! I still have the pocket dictionary in my sign kit to this day!

[sjordan2]

You, sir are absolutely correct. My smart phone isn’t so smart after all. Seriously I have spellcheck on every computer at home and (especially) at work but not on my iPhone, there must be an app for that.

You think Drew, Harry and certain word hobbyists are rough to let a misspelled word slip by, try it with engineers. Though they don’t wrap your knuckles with a yardstick they prefer to use the highlighter and remark functions to completely embarrass their intended target.

One embarrassing "spelling moment occurred" back when I was a sign writer. A rather proud Dad of a soon to graduate psychology major with her doctorate came in the shop and asked if we could do a “shingle” with her name and Psychoanalyst on it. After finishing the real shingle varnishing it to a high sheen and hand lettering the script my boss suggested that I might want to invest in a dictionary, psychologist was not spelled “Psycologist”! I am still reminded of it to this day whenever I see my old boss! I still have the pocket dictionary in my sign kit to this day!

Fun story - I've lived it before. But what do they "wrap" your knuckles with? Duct tape?

Edited by sjordan2, 21 November 2012 - 03:08 PM.

[Casey]

I'm surprised Skip didn't mention Roger Zimmerman's large scale builds (of the scratched variety ) here, but if you have some time, be sure to check out his 1/12 scale '57 Continental Mark II here: http://forums.aaca.o...ale-278354.html


Or some of his previous work here: http://www.craftsman.../Zimmermann.htm

[Skip]

Casey, thank you for sharing the link to Roger Zimmerman's scratch built Continental. I am absolutely in awe of Roger's work. Funny when you hear sniveling and whining about how hard it is to make a particular part out of a chunk of plastic, then you see Roger build his engine and transmission from nearly all brass sheet. I've bookmarked Roger's Scratch Building of his Continental, can't wait to see him get to the panel beating of the bodywork. Now there is a guy who is limited only by his imagination and amazing building skills.

Edited by Skip, 21 November 2012 - 10:03 PM.