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#1 DavidChampagne

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 02:28 PM

I just got my first bottle of Pledge with Future.
I saw a video on Youtube where a guy let some set in an uncovered container for about two weeks. It reduces down to a honey like liquid which he calls Future Glue. He said he uses it to glue chrome to paint without scraping the areas. Like install a grille or windshield. Sounds too good to be true but I will try it. He did say it was not as good as glue for holding but good enough if you don't handle it too rough or knock it etc. I can live with that.

My question is: Anyone try using Future as a clear coat over Alclad Chrome? I hope to try it in the coming weeks and will post results here.

Edited by DavidChampagne, 20 November 2012 - 02:30 PM.


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Posted 20 November 2012 - 05:30 PM

In another thread we had about clearing over Alclad the general concensus was that it doesn't work very well, it still causes the silvering everything else does.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 05:32 PM

In another thread we had about clearing over Alclad the general concensus was that it doesn't work very well, it still causes the silvering everything else does.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 05:47 PM

#1 Future, like the rest of the clears, changes the chrome and silvers it. I know, I tried it.

#2 Properly applied Alclad needs no protection during handling because it's rock hard when dry.

So Dale you are correct...you are wrong x2. ;)

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 05:57 PM

I also wouldn't use it as a glue for mounting clear or chrome parts either. It's a waste of time when there are better products available. Mounting P.E. parts? It's great for that, but I wouldn't use it with anything that has any mass to it. It is good for coating chrome parts so you don't have to scrape them and risk a slip scraping plating off a visible area though.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 06:19 PM

These kind of smart ass comments are why people leave these forums. I think I am now finished posting on the frorum. People ask for help then other peple trash the help offered. I quit.

You need to re-read that chum. Not one word of it is trashing you, nor is it a smart alec comment. Methinks you to be a bit too sensitive. Too bad you can't handle opposing viewpoints. You must have been a barrel of laughs on the debate team...hows that for smart alec? :lol: As for the rest of this thread? If the OP want's the straight scoop he can pm me, other than that I guess i'll just leave it to beaver. ;)

Edited by Futurabat, 20 November 2012 - 08:07 PM.


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Posted 20 November 2012 - 06:25 PM

My apologies to you Dave for the turn this thread is trying to take. I meant no harm. Only to answer your questions and save you some grief.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 02:13 AM

No prob...I appreciate the help..I know I will probably regret it, but, I just gotta try it anyway..as they say:
SEEING IS BELIEVING
I have some jack stand type things for my Tamiya Williams FW24 to try it on..no big loss if it does not come out good.
Thanks all, will update as I progress

Edited by DavidChampagne, 21 November 2012 - 02:17 AM.


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Posted 22 November 2012 - 09:59 PM

I have made the future glue stuff and I do like it only for certain types of things. I don't like it for gluing in chrome bumpers or anything of that sort. I've used it on those parts and they will come off with some handling. However, I do use it as a mock up glue since its easily cleanable after I've used it to test fit certain items I want to work on. Now the one thing I always use it for is gluing in most of my windshields. I say "most", because there are certain types of cars I want a really strong bond on and will use my regular glues for it. Its more of a preference for me on when I will use it. I do love it for gluing in clear lenses to headlight mounts. Photo etch as Jacen has pointed out, its great for that. But keep in mind this glue is not like super glue or any kind of cement glue. Its just a very thick acrylic glue. Just test it out and see what you like to use it for. I still use straight future like Jacen also pointed out for coating my chrome to save scrapings.

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 03:01 PM

So, you coat the chrome with straight Future and do not scrape it before glueing.
I am guessing you do scrape the painted surface? Or, do you coat that with straight Future also?
Thanks for the help. I don't mean to sound so stupid but I have never used Future before.
I am trying to take my models up a step. I am recently retired (63 years old) and finally have lots and lots of time to work on models. My builds are almost all exclusively "Box Stock".
I am currently working on a Tamiya F1 1/20 Williams with a clear body, a 1/16 Tommy Ivo FED, a 1/8 85 Vette, and a wooden surfboard that I will use with a 55 Nomad.
I am so happy I found this site. It is rrealy great..and very helpful. You guys do some amazing stuff.

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 03:28 PM

The main reason I coat anything with future first, wether it be painted or plated, is so the part can be attached with super glue and avoid both hazing and having to scrape the part.

Hazing- Occurs mostly on clear or chrome plated parts due to the evaporators in super glue attaching to the part. In some cases it will wipe off but in most cases not. Especially from the inside of the windshield after it's mounted. a coat of future does a few things here. It will fix minor scratches in the "glass", add a degree of optical clarity to said glass, and keep the super glue (necessary for gluing any part coated with future) from hazing or "fogging" the window.

Scraping- A coat of future will again, help avoid the need for scraping and thus risking scraping off too much. When attaching future coated parts styrene glue will not bite. Use of a cyanoacrylate or epoxy glue is necessary. :)

Edited by Futurabat, 23 November 2012 - 03:29 PM.