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#21 Chas SCR

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 07:04 PM

Thank you for the kind words. After every thing goes in if it is right then here is how it ends up.  I was also able to get the vents with in +/- .005 from any part of where you take a measuerment at. Front the fender body line down to the dooer jam in or to the outer edge of the fender in. Also the vents are with in +/- .003 at any one point from each other in size or angle.



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Posted 16 December 2012 - 11:16 PM

These mods look awesome. I'm loving seeing how you're doing them.



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Posted 17 December 2012 - 06:26 AM

I'm not sure if you realize this, but the body you started with is an RS, the real car shown in the photos is a Standard. So the nose (around the grille) on your model is much too long. (Notice the line that denotes the Endura (RS only) nose extension.)

 

You'll also have to widen the lower valance a bit if you want those proportions to be correct since the Standard version uses the parking lights that are under the bumpers. The RS front valance has no provisions for those lights and is a different shape.



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Posted 17 December 2012 - 08:10 AM

Very good eye Mark! But here is the catch, They did start with an RS and shorten the nose a little but also made it bigger. They move the lights from the top to the bottom under the bumper and narrow the bumper up by 1/2 of what the real one was to make this look right. The valance was also remade to fit the new mods on the car. Here is a photo of the car after this was done on all the work from the nose.

 

 

 

 

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 08:23 AM

No, it started as a Standard as shown in your photo.  Reworked, yes, but not an RS.  The sub-structure of an RS header panel is different since it is made to accept an Endura bumper/nose.   That is a standard nose and valance being reworked in that photo.  (Plus I researched the real car.)



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Posted 17 December 2012 - 09:53 AM

 

 

 

 

This....

 

 

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does not look like this..

 

 

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I think your measurements are off by more than .003

 



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Posted 17 December 2012 - 09:59 AM

Regardless, it will be a sweet Camaro.



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Posted 17 December 2012 - 07:43 PM

Thanks James2,  for the kind words.

 

@ Plowboy , Was talking about the vents from left to right side as the nose was not even close to being done at this time.

 

@ Mark, I know what you are saying and yes I did my research to the point that I did not pick this car as Mr Bob Bertelsen was the one who contacted me on this as I was working on Runt for Curtis. I have not seen any pics from the internet on this car or even in the magazines other then what was posted by RPM Hotrods when they took the car out west and also sent me pics of the interior parts. Bob sent me a 3 disk set of every part of the car from when it was bought to when it was done. The only out side help from him was more from DSE when they did the frame and chassis work and what parts they use.

 

I do have the non RS/Z28 AMT 1st issue kit and would like to use that one but there seems to be more work in getting the body to the point of  even a good start compare to the new issue or even the Baldwin release body issue.



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Posted 18 December 2012 - 06:14 AM

Chas, If you did not know that it was made from a Standard before starting to build the model, then why did you write all this claiming it was made from an RS when I pointed out the discrepancy (hopefully before you were too far in to correct it)?

They did start with an RS and shorten the nose a little but also made it bigger. They move the lights from the top to the bottom under the bumper and narrow the bumper up by 1/2 of what the real one was to make this look right. The valance was also remade to fit the new mods on the car. Here is a photo of the car after this was done on all the work from the nose.

 

 

 

 

 

Just where did you get the info when you wrote But here is the catch, They did start with an RS and shorten the nose a little but also made it bigger.”  since we now all know that it is was not built from an RS but clearly from a Standard?



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Posted 18 December 2012 - 01:36 PM

Mark, Every thing I have came from Bob him self! The info as when he started building this car he bought 2 RS, 1 ended up being red that he ran on the GG tour in 2011 that was a strip down rally autocross only car. This one he started at the same time but he did all the body work in his shop, sent it out for the frame work at DSE and then over to Area51 paint and up to RPM to have the interior done. He was hoping to keep this one like a cross between a custom show car and a autocross car. After this last season on the tour it  has been taken apart and put back together intime for the World Of Wheels in Pttsburgh PA as a show car like "Runt" was built for. 

 

I got the 1st issue AMT kit on a trade as I did not know there was a diffrent in the three kits (RS,Baldwin and 1st issue) I like the interior of the non one better as it's smooth out already and would not have to putty up the interior plus it would be easyer to do the front inner fendwells and firewall. But the chassis sucks in that kit as it's a 1 part only unlike the other being a two part.



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Posted 18 December 2012 - 01:45 PM

Wish I could find the 1st issue of the non split bumper camaro....I need just about all the parts lol....all the work looks good so far Chas..keep it up



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Posted 18 December 2012 - 06:26 PM

Tim, The first issue is a split bumper but it doe not have the extra section on the nose is all.



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Posted 18 December 2012 - 06:28 PM

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 06:30 PM

shapping the front vent even more. Now I have the nose short'n up on it and thin down so the brackets can be put in for the oil coolers and then fill the area back up around the grill that was a little larger then the stock one is.

 

Rear panel now smooth out so I can take the tail light section out of change the full panel out.

 

Lower valance has been cut out so I can get the running lights in place and also the new narrower bumper to be made.



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Posted 19 December 2012 - 12:54 PM

here are the rim rings, The top two are 1/3 narrower then the bottom two. The tires are also will be put into resin to fit the rings and the center parts are going to be made in resin and to fit the outer ones. This is so every thing will fit under the fenders the right way and the front fenders are the normal part where the tires and rims on pro touring cars have a problem of getting the chassis parts to fit. This opens up a full new area and can make it look right.262741_4667240372783_1936418484_n.jpg

 

 

 

here are the rim rings, The top two are 1/3 narrower then the bottom two. The tires are also will be put into resin to fit the rings and the center parts are going to be made in resin and to fit the outer ones. This is so every thing will fit under the fenders the right way and the front fenders are the normal part where the tires and rims on pro touring cars have a problem of getting the chassis parts to fit. This opens up a full new area and can make it look right.



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Posted 20 December 2012 - 03:12 PM

did some more resin work today and got the motor block, 4spd housing as I do not think I can find a Tremec T56 Magnum trans. But I was able to get the bell housing sanded down so every thing will bolt together. The 4spd was picked as it did not have molded in parts so I can scratch build them.  The motor block may also change over to the LS7 block from the corvette kit once I get farther into this.

 

 

 

 

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 03:44 PM

Found the trans I need. MAD has them in resin already or the new Revell Camaro!



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Posted 27 December 2012 - 04:38 PM

 The rear lower floor pans are now remove and ready to be put back in level with the top of the frame rail, This will give room for the 4 link brackets. The rear tail panel also has been remove after the full molded in rear bumper is now in place and ready to be put into putty for seem fit.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 10:18 AM

B)

Chas, I for one, am really digging on your work Man!!

Superb!!

The body modifications on the kit are rockin' !

I would like to thank you for sharing it here!!

I will be watching the rest!!

Later

Russ

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 04:41 PM

Hood vents are now in and here is the top veiw, Rear tail panel for the tail lights and the gas cap and neck is now put in place. Door handles are remove so i can scratch build them also, Last is the start of the firewall is not in place. Had to remove the molded in part so I can replace the vents later.

 

 

 

 

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