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#21 niteowl7710

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 07:19 AM

 

No, it was never available in 1/25 scale kit form. A resin 4-door Blazer conversion was made by All American Models in the '90s, and VCG Resins is working on a 2-door, but only the 2-door second gen was available as a kit.

 

There was a 4-door 2nd Gen Blazer by AMT as well, but it was in the Snap-Fast line.



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Posted 12 March 2013 - 08:38 AM

 

I think the MPC '84 Pontiac Fiero included the 4-cylinder Iron Duke engine, but I've never seen a clear pic of it, and you'd still need to source a RWD transmission for behind the engine, too.

 

I'd need another one of those pesky Borg-Warner T5's to go on it! Although I'm pretty sure the S10 T5's were a different case than a Mustang or Camaro version.



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Posted 12 March 2013 - 08:56 AM

 

I'd need another one of those pesky Borg-Warner T5's to go on it! Although I'm pretty sure the S10 T5's were a different case than a Mustang or Camaro version.

 

They were, and the Astro/Safari main cases too.  :(  I may need to scrounge up one of the MPC 3GN GM F-body kits for a V8 T-5 bellhousing, but you might be able to modify the T-bird's BH to work behind the Iron Duke.



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Posted 12 March 2013 - 09:41 AM

 

They were, and the Astro/Safari main cases too.  :(  I may need to scrounge up one of the MPC 3GN GM F-body kits for a V8 T-5 bellhousing, but you might be able to modify the T-bird's BH to work behind the Iron Duke.

 

The main part of the case looks to be about the same, it's just the tail housing that is different, the S10 unit has the shifter closer to the front, the F/Fox units are on the rear. Looks like maybe the F/Fox unit would make a decent stand in with not to much modification.

 

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Ok... Totally hijaking this thread and I do feel bad about it... I'll stop now.



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Posted 12 March 2013 - 10:57 AM

I learned a lot about the T5 when I went looking for one to put into my '95 Astro, but you're right, it's the tailhousings and parts contained within them which differ the most between the various T5s. I have some long term S-10 parts plans, so this isn't totally off topic. I think a long bed and frame to match would be a good thing to have available. 



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Posted 12 March 2013 - 11:03 AM

I had the "Waverider" S-10. But, to me, it looked to be closer to 1/24 scale than 1/25. I know it states 1/25 on the box. 

 

I always thought that, too, but now that I have two on hand and a 2GN AMT Somona, I can take some comparison pics. 

 

 

But.... the wheels look a lot bigger than a 15" wheel and the tires are the same tires that Monogram used in a lot of their other 1/24 kits.

 

Revell-Monogram was never too picky about tire sizes back then. They could've added different tires for the S-10 version, but that would required different wheel parts, too, and the box is already very full. Who knows why they chose to share and fudge the S-10's wheels.



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Posted 12 March 2013 - 11:38 AM

I learned a lot about the T5 when I went looking for one to put into my '95 Astro, but you're right, it's the tailhousings and parts contained within them which differ the most between the various T5s. I have some long term S-10 parts plans, so this isn't totally off topic. I think a long bed and frame to match would be a good thing to have available. 

 

Funny... I had an 87 Astro with an Iron Duke and a T5 years ago... Could have walked faster backward but it was kind of neat! Keep me in mind if/when you decide to cast some of them, I'd be interested in several no matter the configuration.

 

To the wheel discussion... Seems like all the kit makers reuse the same tires over and over whether appropriate or not (tires must either be hard to do, or expensive to license, or something?) it seems bizarre to me that they would tool up the 4wd wheels for the S10 , but later do the AWD parts (which are mostly indistinguishable from 4wd parts) for the Syclone. Can't help but wonder if there were some missing memo's on the S10 project back then. We might easily have been having a thread about suitable donor kits for 2wd front suspension instead! biggrin.png



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Posted 12 March 2013 - 02:11 PM

 

 

To the wheel discussion... Seems like all the kit makers reuse the same tires over and over whether appropriate or not (tires must either be hard to do, or expensive to license, or something?) it seems bizarre to me that they would tool up the 4wd wheels for the S10 , but later do the AWD parts (which are mostly indistinguishable from 4wd parts) for the Syclone. Can't help but wonder if there were some missing memo's on the S10 project back then. We might easily have been having a thread about suitable donor kits for 2wd front suspension instead! biggrin.png

The Syclone kit was released first, the regular S10 was a bit later. In fact, on some of the trees, parts of the Syclone AWD system (front diff center section and 1/2 shafts) are present in the 2wd S10 kit. Either way, it's still bizzare that they would have tooled up the wrong wheels for the 2wd. It would have been more accurate if they had used a set 16" Camaro wheels, which at least were a legit option on 2wd S trucks.



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Posted 12 March 2013 - 05:00 PM

 

Funny... I had an 87 Astro with an Iron Duke and a T5 years ago... Could have walked faster backward but it was kind of neat! Keep me in mind if/when you decide to cast some of them, I'd be interested in several no matter the configuration.

 

Will do. I got my clutch pedal and a few other bits for my conversion off an '85 4cylinder/4-speed (Saginaw/Muncie) Astro cargo, so I can understand how they'd be underpowered. The 4.3L and T5 is a fun combo, though.

 

it seems bizarre to me that they would tool up the 4wd wheels for the S10 , but later do the AWD parts (which are mostly indistinguishable from 4wd parts) for the Syclone. Can't help but wonder if there were some missing memo's on the S10 project back then. We might easily have been having a thread about suitable donor kits for 2wd front suspension instead! biggrin.png

 

 

The Syclone kit was released first, the regular S10 was a bit later. Either way, it's still bizzare that they would have tooled up the wrong wheels for the 2wd.

 

I'm not sure which "other" tires Monogram would included with the kit, other than maybe the Goodyear GT Radial tires. I don't recall Monogram having any light duty truck tires at that time, other than the Goodyear Tracker A-Ts which had an aggressive tread and would've stuffed the wheel wells full. I think the Monogram's Ford F-series kits used the "bloated" GY Radial GTs which were beyond awful, and even bigger than the Tracker A-T, so no help there.

 

Lots of potential in this kit for sure.  :)



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Posted 12 March 2013 - 05:08 PM

 

No, it was never available in 1/25 scale kit form. A resin 4-door Blazer conversion was made by All American Models in the '90s, and VCG Resins is working on a 2-door, but only the 2-door second gen was available as a kit.

Thanks Casey, I actually didn't know about the resin 4 door square body.  I was pretty sure that no production square body blazer kits was the case....must have just been a typo.  No biggie.


Edited by Skydime, 12 March 2013 - 05:13 PM.


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Posted 12 March 2013 - 06:09 PM

Looks like AAM made a 2-door first gen Blazer, too:

 

http://www.rocketfin...uct.cfm?id=2350

 

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 11:27 AM

I have one in the stash and one started along with a syclone all first issues. the wheels turned me off on the S-10so shelved it . But like already said it is a well detailed and thought out kit for sure. Some of thier best work . Michael