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#41 Danno

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 10:23 AM

My SA(noE) arrived yesterday.  Finished it off in little more than 1/2 hour (that's how in-depth the content is).  Now that I've had the appetiser, I'm ready and eager for the main dish ... MCM Filet Mignon-December. 

 

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#42 midnightprowler

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 10:42 AM

 

I think the animosity/hostility towards SA is more towards the editor rather than the magazine itself. His sometimes ridiculous moderation of the forum has turned a lot of people against him and in turn, the magazine. I'm just speaking from my own personal experience. Someone else's reason may be different. 

I can agree with those that don't like the forum, but they are seperate entities to a point.  SA has good stuff as well as MCM.  Just 2 diffrent flavors is all.



#43 Darren B

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 10:59 AM

I have to throw my two cents in the ring here, I agree with Lee, having all the car model related mags is better than having none at all, I read the other mag SAE Scale Auto Enthusiast , and yes its the same tips and techniques that they ran before, and I cant take another model review, this months has like 13 model kit reviews, I would much rather have more techs and tips than model reviews, yes its great to know if there is a kit with a snag or bad assembly spots but if you dont build model cars and hit a few snags that you have to figure out or work out to make it work then why model? I have almost all the issues (same with MCM bought them all) and in SAE its the same old reworked tips and techniques, every once in a while they will have a new tip but rarely.

 

Thats why to me Model Cars Mag is the best car model mag out there, because I learn something new every issue, may be a new technique in a genre that I do not model as I primarily build lowriders but i know when i get that issue in the mail box i will learn something new, cant say the same on the other mag or finescale modeler, that mag two is the same old warmed up tips and techs.....

 

1.)In my opinion MCM is the best and is the first on my list of model mags, period thats my opinion not kissing any butt here just saying, every issue i learn something new!!

 

2.)In my opinion never hurts in this day and age and economy to have other model mag resources, Im sure everyone can agree to that.

 

3.)Lets all be happy we have this hobby and be thankful MCM is around and we get it when we do, cause I know if it ceased to exsist i would be sorely missing a great publication on my most favorite hobby!!!

 

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 11:07 AM

SAE helped with the recognition of model cars as an ADULT hobby. If not for that, Plastic Fanatic would never had been launched. After Plastic Fanatic had some success publishing in the off months of SAE, Car Modeler was started to allow SAE's publishing house to have a new magazine every month at the hobby shops. Plastic Fanatic was bought by Greg and it morphed into the Model Cars we have all learned to love. Gary sold SAE to Kambalch. I'm not sure if Greg bought PF before or after SAE was sold. I frankly think a lot of what made SAE special ended when Gary Schmidt sold out. Eventually SAE lost the E (for Enthusiast) and Car Modeler folded.

 

In all of this, I can only say I'm glad Model Cars is still around. While I buy both SA and Model Cars, I read SA in less than an hour. Model Cars often is spread over several nights of off and on reading to maximize the enjoyment.

 

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 12:26 PM

I believe Gregg bought PF about the same time.  The premier issue of MCM was in 1999 I beleive.  I actually like having a fairly large number of reviews.  I have always felt that was a weak point in MCM.  I like both about the same, for diffrent reasons, with MCM having a slight advantage, for it's more "family" feel, over the bit more "corporate" feel of SA, much like SAE was.



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Posted 30 December 2012 - 01:35 PM

Well, I used to subscribe to both magazines but had to cut back earlier this year and MCM lost out as it was the one up for renewal. While SA has a corporate feel to it, I do appreciate the fact that I don't have to guess when the next issue will arrive. That was a contributing factor to my decision along with the condition the magazine showed up in most months.

 

I applaud Gregg for putting out a magazine in a time when readership of publications is in a decline and especially in a genre' of such small proportions.

 

Hopefully I can subscribe again in 2013 as I have tried to find the magazine at hobby shops and bookstores to no avail. I do like the variety between the two competing magazines and think it is healthy for us to have the choices. 



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Posted 30 December 2012 - 01:55 PM

I still buy sae magazine. But i really enjoy model car magazine. The other magazine seems to cater to only the large shows and east coast as well. I dont recall seeing very many how to articles like model car magazine does. I used to participate in their forum but quite because their forum does not have the comradary this one does. You guys are a lot more helpful too.

Edited by azers, 30 December 2012 - 02:11 PM.


#48 Darren B

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 02:29 PM

I still buy sae magazine. But i really enjoy model car magazine. The other magazine seems to cater to only the large shows and east coast as well. I dont recall seeing very many how to articles like model car magazine does. I used to participate in their forum but quite because their forum does not have the comradary this one does. You guys are a lot more helpful too.

well said this forum everyone will help out but not the other one..........



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Posted 30 December 2012 - 02:44 PM

I am thankful we have choices, wish we had 10 or more different model car related magazines, I would certainly buy each and every issue. people have to learn to stop complaining so much and start to be more thankful that between the mags and the forums today we have something that was missing a few years ago.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 02:48 PM

I am thankful we have choices, wish we had 10 or more different model car related magazines, I would certainly buy each and every issue. people have to learn to stop complaining so much and start to be more thankful that between the mags and the forums today we have something that was missing a few years ago.

I could have not said it any better well said meaneyme



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Posted 30 December 2012 - 02:49 PM

My SA(noE) arrived yesterday.  Finished it off in little more than 1/2 hour (that's how in-depth the content is).  Now that I've had the appetiser, I'm ready and eager for the main dish ... MCM Filet Mignon-December. 

 

B)

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#52 OldTimer50707

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 05:06 PM

I thought I read somewhere that Barnes & Noble was going to start selling the magazine. I've been checking for the past month and still none.



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Posted 30 December 2012 - 06:03 PM

I thought I read somewhere that Barnes & Noble was going to start selling the magazine. I've been checking for the past month and still none.

 

It's up to each store, ask your manager and he might order it.



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Posted 30 December 2012 - 06:04 PM

The best way (and the cheapest) to get the magazine is to subscribe. The per issue cost is a lot less when you subscribe.



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Posted 30 December 2012 - 08:11 PM

The best way (and the cheapest) to get the magazine is to subscribe. The per issue cost is a lot less when you subscribe.

Yes it is one of the reason i subscribed, also saves a lot of gas driving all over town looking for it to.



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Posted 30 December 2012 - 08:23 PM

I am thankful we have choices, wish we had 10 or more different model car related magazines, I would certainly buy each and every issue. people have to learn to stop complaining so much and start to be more thankful that between the mags and the forums today we have something that was missing a few years ago.

There are a few 'hole in the wall' automotive modeling magazines out there if you know where to look, though most of them are dedicated to one particular niche in the hobby. 'Kustom and Hot Rod Models' comes to mind, but I know there are at least a few others I'm not remembering at the moment.



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Posted 30 December 2012 - 08:28 PM

There are a few 'hole in the wall' automotive modeling magazines out there if you know where to look, though most of them are dedicated to one particular niche in the hobby. 'Kustom and Hot Rod Models' comes to mind, but I know there are at least a few others I'm not remembering at the moment.

Lowridering in scale magazine, model car builder are two other ones you can check it out on magcloud.com and order them in either print form or digital downloads, I have em all mostly digital downloads you can read them instantly after you pay for them and they run about 1.99 each. Thing is with Kustoms and Hot Rod Models mag I spoke with the guy that puts it out and sales were so bad hes going to a bi annual schedule so that means only two mags a year and it may even go to 1 issue a year in fact.


Edited by Darren B, 30 December 2012 - 08:48 PM.


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Posted 30 December 2012 - 08:54 PM

My SA(noE) arrived yesterday.  Finished it off in little more than 1/2 hour (that's how in-depth the content is).  Now that I've had the appetiser, I'm ready and eager for the main dish ... MCM Filet Mignon-December. 

 

B)

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 09:39 PM

I have to say ... IF the reviews were more current, then having a bunch of reviews would be fine.  But, SA(noE) being full of reviews on OLD kits that have been out for months (or years, in the case of their "Classic Kit" series) is pointless. 

 

The past couple of years, virtually every kit they've reviewed was on the market so long before they got around to their review that I had already bought it and either built it or grokked it.  Their reviews were old news.  In this internet era, they should not waste the time and pages talking about year-old releases.   And when they can't tell an AMT from a Revell . . .

 

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 11:42 PM

 (or years, in the case of their "Classic Kit" series) is pointless. 

 

I completely disagree.  I think having a classic kit review is a cool way to bring to mind to those who may not be aware, where our hobby was at one time, and how new issues of old kits may or may not differ from older ones.

 


Edited by midnightprowler, 30 December 2012 - 11:42 PM.