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#41 Exotics_Builder

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 06:02 AM

Gerry...I bought what I presume was the Western Models White Metall Lusso from Dave at RnD Unique (IIRC) back around 1987 or so, paying at the time what I think was around $150 for it. It was admidtedly a gamble, and when I got the kit it was exactly what I expected  -  typical white metal kit that could be build into a beautfiul replica given unlimited amounts of time and talent.  I still have it, (the kit, that is, unbuilt) but I long for the lack of assembly complexity and the exquisite detail that a high-quality styrene replica from Revell or RoG could give us (Tamiya, quite frankly is still on my hit list for what they did (or did not) due to their Aston Martin kit re lack of realistic engine execution).

 

I recall seeing an absolutely gorgeous Lusso build from David Morton who used to (and may still) attend the NNL South in Atlanta.  Don't recall what basis he used for it but the build quality was spectacular. 

 

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Amen to that Tim.  For example,  I have the MFH 250 GTO, but the Fujimi or previous Italeri with Aftermarket (including Norm's or Harold's Ferrari engines) make for a much more fun build experience.

 

Any help as to which car and it's racing history??

 

I don't have the refernce anymore as I looked it up when I bought the orignal Protar version of that.  The photos of the repaired car show the squared off rear end, which is the most glaring difference than what you see on many GTO's.   As you know, all GTO's were hand built and there are differences in each body.  I will see if there is anything in my Ferrari GTO book.



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Posted 04 January 2013 - 07:29 AM

Any help as to which car and it's racing history??

 

I found the reference, it is actually on the Protar kit instructions.  It is chassis number 3851 and has some history.  barchetta.com is a good place to look it up.

 

3851GT was delivered to Jo Schlesser on September 11th, he finished the Tour de France 2nd OA, the GTO was involved in a very bad crash and was t-boned, it was send back to the factoyr for rebuilt and was sold to Paolo Colombo, he raced it in 1963 with great success, like Ernesto Prinoth in 1964 and 1965. In 1965 the GTO was sold to Fabrizio Violati.

 

Here is a link to more info:

 

http://www.barchetta...51gt.250gto.htm

 

Supposedly the car has had multiple "facelifts".



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Posted 04 January 2013 - 08:24 AM

Well there-in lies the slippery-slope if "it already exists, we don't need a new one". Sure Beetle, Mini & 2CV kits exist, but whether anyone wants to admit it for fear of feeling old, those kits.are now (or nearly) 30 YEARS old. Beyond the Asian market vs. European market comparisons they'd be a fair amount of popular kits that wouldn't exist...

Revell '49 Merc - NO! The AMT kit is fine
Revell Tri-Fives -Heck No! They already had kits of those..

No '32 Fords, no '69 Camaros (hey Monogram had a perfectly serviceable - if not cartoonish one already.), no,'57 Ford, and on and on.

I mean exactly where does one draw the line at deciding what kit does or doesn't deserve new tooling? Revell is on try THREE on the '70 Cuda after all.


Let me be put it this way, what should have the priority? A new version of an existing 'bad' kit or a totally new long waited for one?  Revell did it right with the Tri five bringing missing versions of the Chevy model array, like the 56 Del Ray and Nomad, but in my opinion another 57 Bel Air sport Cope was unnecessary. A new 1959, 1963 and 1962 Corvettes are not as interesting as the missing 1961, 1965 and 1966 (in 1/25). The 1957 Ford Custom was a brilliant decision, but it would have been silly to ignore the lack of a 58 ford and to make another fairlane 500 club victoria.



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Posted 04 January 2013 - 08:58 AM

Any help as to which car and it's racing history??

at one time i did... i will have to go digging

 

as I recall it was a privateer running the car a few years after Ferrari won at LeMans with the 250 TR

 

Aerodynamics are for people who can't build engines Enzo Ferrari
 

Edited by CAL, 04 January 2013 - 09:14 AM.


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Posted 04 January 2013 - 12:23 PM

I would think that Revell is going to reissue their 250 GTO from the 90's this time (which was a repacked Italeri GTO) because the remark "neue Form " (= new mold) is missing here.

I'm asking myself why they won't release a 250 GT Lusso (my favorite Ferrari since I have owned the Matchbox # 75 car as a kid in the mid '60s); a 1966 330 GTC or a 1958 250 TdF would also be great!

I don't think we need another 250 GTO after Fujimi's very good kit (only the Avon tires are a big fault!)

 

Though I have bought Revell's Mini and 2 CV, I also have acquired about 95 1/24 die-casts in the last 3 years - mainly of cars that we will hardly ever see as plastic kits (will be disassembled, repainted, detailed and or converted) - most of them came out in Italy, promoted from Quattroruote car magazine.

Some of the models I have: Citroen DS, Citroen Dyane, Lancia B24 Spider, Lancia Fulvia Coupé, Fiat 124 Spider, Fiat X1/9, Mercedes Benz 230 SL, BMW 1600-2 (Same body as 2002), Ford Capri and Escort Mk 1 and a lot of different Alfa Romeos: Giulia Super, Giulietta Sprint coupé, Giulietta Sprint Speciale coupé, GT1300 junior, 1600 Spider Duetto (The Graduate!), 1750 Berlina, 1800 Alfetta, Alfasud, 1900 Berlina, 1900 Sprint, tipo 33 stradale (1967), Montreal etc.etc...

 

Several among them would make great kits but I don't think this will happen during the rest of my life.

 

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 03:44 PM

The information that I have (Ferrari 250 GTO by Anthony Pritchard) about the 250 GTO 3851 was that Henri Oreiller (co-owner with Jo Schlesser) was involved in a fatal crash Oct 7 1962 during the Coupes du Salon, Montlhery.  Oreiller was the only driver to be killed driving a 250 GTO.  This book says that Oreiller was not wearing his seat belt when he crash into a building.  The wrecked GTO was brought back to the factory and was re-bodied as a series 1 250 GTO.  Chassis 3851 was originally Grigio Metallic from the factory.



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Posted 05 January 2013 - 04:59 AM

So, at this point we really don't know what Revell of Germany is planning.  Larry has brought it to our attention early.  And I thank him for that.

 

Even RoG's recent newsletter is sketchy on the Ferrari.  As LArry has not yet posted a link to it, may I do so:

 

http://www.revell-news.de/display.php?M=55486&C=114eb32970db945cfd3c0db492318f9f&S=163&L=21&N=59 


Edited by Exotics_Builder, 05 January 2013 - 05:00 AM.


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Posted 08 January 2013 - 12:51 AM

In this link, it's listed as being a co-operation, so if that is indeed correct, then presumably it is the Protar (as reboxed by Revell a couple of years ago) or possibly the Italeri kit (that others mention has been reboxed by Revell on a previous occasion):

 

http://www.ipmsdeuts..._News_2013.html



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Posted 11 January 2013 - 03:01 PM

I have the Fujimi one (molded in blue), thought I'd check out the RoG one...I picked up one off eBay..got it today, the instructions say copyright 2007.  Opening doors and decklid, very thin A-pillars.  Is this the ex-Protar tooling (no mention on the instructions or box that I can see).

 

Wasn't there a Monogram issue 250 GTO back in the 70s?  Was it the Protar one also?  And I assume the Testors one from the '80s was the Italeri tool (I have other Testors Italeri Ferrari reboxes, so I assume this one was also).    Never had the Italeri 250 GTO.

 

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 06:07 PM

I have the Fujimi one (molded in blue), thought I'd check out the RoG one...I picked up one off eBay..got it today, the instructions say copyright 2007.  Opening doors and decklid, very thin A-pillars.  Is this the ex-Protar tooling (no mention on the instructions or box that I can see).

 

Wasn't there a Monogram issue 250 GTO back in the 70s?  Was it the Protar one also?  And I assume the Testors one from the '80s was the Italeri tool (I have other Testors Italeri Ferrari reboxes, so I assume this one was also).    Never had the Italeri 250 GTO.

 

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Rob, the RoG issue you have is the ex- Protar tool. The opening doors and boot lid are the giveaway here. The old Monogram tool is an Aurora hand- me- down, from the same series of kits as the Maserati 3500 and Aston DB4. It's not a very good representation of a GTO... the body proportions are completely wrong. The Italeri GTO is an excellent kit, and was indeed reboxed by Testors in the 80s. How do you like the Fujimi kit? 



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Posted 11 January 2013 - 06:13 PM

Rob, the RoG issue you have is the ex- Protar tool. The opening doors and boot lid are the giveaway here. The old Monogram tool is an Aurora hand- me- down, from the same series of kits as the Maserati 3500 and Aston DB4. It's not a very good representation of a GTO... the body proportions are completely wrong. The Italeri GTO is an excellent kit, and was indeed reboxed by Testors in the 80s. How do you like the Fujimi kit? 

I like the Fujimi kit..haven't had a chance yet to compare the RoG one w/ it.   



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Posted 21 January 2013 - 01:00 PM

I got some preliminary information.  It appears it will again be the Protar Kit.  Still trying to get more info.



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Posted 28 January 2013 - 06:58 PM


Let me be put it this way, what should have the priority? A new version of an existing 'bad' kit or a totally new long waited for one?  Revell did it right with the Tri five bringing missing versions of the Chevy model array, like the 56 Del Ray and Nomad, but in my opinion another 57 Bel Air sport Cope was unnecessary. A new 1959, 1963 and 1962 Corvettes are not as interesting as the missing 1961, 1965 and 1966 (in 1/25). The 1957 Ford Custom was a brilliant decision, but it would have been silly to ignore the lack of a 58 ford and to make another fairlane 500 club victoria.

 

I don't mean to enter any arguments, but 65 and 66 Corvettes look nearly identical and I don't see why we would need more than 1 year of a C2 Vette... Also don't see the point in a 61 Corvette when there is the new Revell 62...

 

Absolutely no point in tooling up every year of any generation of a car, unless they are radically different like the 54, 56, 59, and 62 Corvette C1s. As for the C2, C4, and C5, I think one of each gen. is enough, in my opinion.



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Posted 01 February 2013 - 11:18 AM

The website says it has 202 parts.  Did the old Protar kit have 202 parts?  Seems like a lot of parts.



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Posted 01 February 2013 - 12:29 PM

The website says it has 202 parts.  Did the old Protar kit have 202 parts?  Seems like a lot of parts.

 

The one Revell did back in 2007 had the same amount of parts ....

 

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 09:13 PM

Can always find room to add a Lusso and a few others.  Just got the 599 GTO, SA Aperta and F12 Berlinetta.  Just a little bit of my Ferrari stash:

 

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My God, it's full of stars.