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#1 crazyrichard

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 08:46 AM

hey all ,

just started the john buttera kit from revell.
it seems a bit small , alright its a model t but its in 1/25 ...and therefore i think its just a tad too small in scale
the molding isnt great but also not bad ..
the thing this kit really has going for it is the fact that there are a lot of parts and even the chassis needs assembling , i like kits with as much as possible parts to assemble.



i wil build this one custom , not out of the box .. more in the t-bucket style but keep it a 4-seater


the boxart


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the body had 4 doors molded in the body


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i didnt like those so i flattened the sides


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on the front there was a raised vent buldge ,


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i also flatetned that


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then sanded the whole body flat



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dryfit of the interiour tub



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stock window frame



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easy chop just cut the top end :)



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tomorrow i want to start building teh chassis and see what set up will work best

Edited by crazyrichard, 11 January 2013 - 10:20 AM.


#2 Ace-Garageguy

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 09:01 AM

Actually, the bodies in the Revell series of T kits based on that tooling are very close to correct. I have the tall sedan-delivery version and just checket it with 1:1 dimensions, and with AMT's '27 T. The REAL problem with the T kits is the undersized Ford smallblock V8. Check it against the correctly scaled Ford smallblock engine in Revell's '32 Fords and you'll see what I mean.

 

There is a Revell '34 Ford based on the T chassis in this kit that is REALLY undersized, as it was shrunken to fit the tiny T chassis. Stay away from that one.



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Posted 05 January 2013 - 09:20 AM

Richard, I'm pretty sure the kit scales out to 1/25. Model-Ts were quite small cars.

Yes, Steve is right. I build 1:1 hot rods for a living, have a bookcase full of reference material on the old stuff, and just checked the actual measurements. Not opinion. Fact.



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Posted 05 January 2013 - 09:53 AM

aright , thnx guys well i guess that the problem when you live in bloody holland and almost never can see those cars 4 real. i did see a real model t pick up ounce but that was in a shipping container so always good to get such info from you guys :)

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 04:26 AM

started the chassis and suspension , more assmebly then the revell kits , wich is a nice change ..
the cast isnt great loads of sand work but that will be fine :)
just a bit more work



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engine and transmission



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rear dif and brakes



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rear suspension




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front suspension




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Edited by crazyrichard, 06 January 2013 - 04:27 AM.


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Posted 07 January 2013 - 05:40 AM

well i cut the whole cab into pieces and i'm making it smaller with the bench as seat ....

maybe a round tank behind the cab ??

the cab gave me a fight , nothing lined up after cutting , but with some patience i managed to get something going , waht you see on the pics isnt done but already very solid

not really trying to get the dimensions perfectly the same like a real t-bucket just trying to get something cool going



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all rough >> still needs loads of work




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Edited by crazyrichard, 07 January 2013 - 05:44 AM.


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Posted 07 January 2013 - 07:15 AM

I'd love to see this build, but for some reason, I am unable to view the photos :( 



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Posted 07 January 2013 - 09:37 AM

hmmm weird .. i can see them myself ??
anybody else here who cant see them ?? if so please leave a message :)


when i looked at these 2 .. love both the vintage style and the tweedy pie so maybe something in between ?


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maybe i will shorten the frame like the ones above (lenght) so the t is short wheel based


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got the seems nice and smooth , that body is a real frankenstein , needed some good plastic surgery to become smaller ..
from touring to .....lol


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Edited by crazyrichard, 07 January 2013 - 09:40 AM.


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Posted 07 January 2013 - 09:46 AM

LOOKS GREAT RICHARD!!!



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Posted 08 January 2013 - 05:26 AM

LOOKS GREAT RICHARD!!!


thnx ira !!

you dont think the sides of the cab are to small ? like in hight ?

oh and good news this means tou can see the pics :) lol since the other guy could not see them

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 05:35 AM

Since you have all that room left in front how about a Chevy inline six in there? I think they look awesome in hot rods.



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Posted 08 January 2013 - 06:29 AM

Koool.



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Posted 08 January 2013 - 07:23 AM

thnx hak and @ Jantrix hmm could be cool but i'm thinking of shortening the chassis and adding a nice fat v8 .. kind of had that in my mind and love the look that way , but def. could be cool to do a long inline engine !

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 09:02 AM

hey ,

made a firewall today from a side of the hood , with the louvres on it , on the flat parts on the right i made a brake booster

i used a old revell booster and made the top half as big , made it sit more fluch against the wall and added a new top


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then shortened the chassis to get the look like i showed with the reference pics



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with the body on



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not doing a rear tank , want a clear rear end where the dif and suspension is visible

also reglued the top part of the window , the chopped window made it look weird and too small , now you can see a person looks big in it due to the window hight



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love this chassis like this visible , something different from closed rails for ounce



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later when everything is sorted out i will make some extra support members in between the chassis (from side to side)

Edited by crazyrichard, 09 January 2013 - 09:05 AM.


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Posted 10 January 2013 - 11:10 PM

dont mind the brake set up on the firewall , i realised i screwed that up and ..... going to change that


used the roof to make a smooth underside on the rear , now the rear will flow into the rear bottom nicely



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sanded the rough shape into it




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some bondo



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shortened the drive shaft after the frame was shortened




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made a small round space in the firewall , maily for looks it ran free of the engine / trans but this looks better




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Posted 11 January 2013 - 08:34 AM

changed the brake booster , i hate it and i will use some reference on the net and make a complete scratch version later


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the underside came out smooth


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so the body sides flow over into the bottom with smooth corners


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sides are pretty sleak as well


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closed the floor section


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i made a small fake tunnel just felt it looked a bit better instead of all flat


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the firewall lines match nice with the seat



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found a cool interiour pic of a t


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Posted 11 January 2013 - 10:17 AM

flattened the front floor after bondo


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made a new brake ... with reservoir


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made the steering colom true the floor like the reference pic in my previous post , will make the pedals tomorrow


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dryfit



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good impression of the stance



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Edited by crazyrichard, 11 January 2013 - 10:17 AM.


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Posted 11 January 2013 - 11:22 AM

Thats actually turning out pretty cool!



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Posted 11 January 2013 - 11:36 AM

It's turning out very cool !   The shortened chassis with the tall windshield helps the look a lot ,  and the new brake master cylinder looks good .

You've done a lot of surgery to get the body the way it is and it looks great !  Keep posting !



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Posted 11 January 2013 - 11:58 AM

thnx guys :) well actually did not had a set plan in the beginning , first wanted to try the long chassis with drag wheels in front.. then found some cool pics of short wheel base buckets and just loved the whole look of them and tooold yes the body actually was hacked up pretty good .. what i like most myself is that untill now everything is done using only the content of the kit , no added styreen not that adding styreen is a bad thing no def. not but its just fun to see that you can convert a kit using 99% of the kit also just happened did not do that on purpose :)