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#1 crazyrichard

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 08:46 AM

hey all ,

just started the john buttera kit from revell.
it seems a bit small , alright its a model t but its in 1/25 ...and therefore i think its just a tad too small in scale
the molding isnt great but also not bad ..
the thing this kit really has going for it is the fact that there are a lot of parts and even the chassis needs assembling , i like kits with as much as possible parts to assemble.



i wil build this one custom , not out of the box .. more in the t-bucket style but keep it a 4-seater


the boxart


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the body had 4 doors molded in the body


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i didnt like those so i flattened the sides


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on the front there was a raised vent buldge ,


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i also flatetned that


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then sanded the whole body flat



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dryfit of the interiour tub



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stock window frame



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easy chop just cut the top end :)



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tomorrow i want to start building teh chassis and see what set up will work best

Edited by crazyrichard, 11 January 2013 - 10:20 AM.


#2 Ace-Garageguy

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 09:01 AM

Actually, the bodies in the Revell series of T kits based on that tooling are very close to correct. I have the tall sedan-delivery version and just checket it with 1:1 dimensions, and with AMT's '27 T. The REAL problem with the T kits is the undersized Ford smallblock V8. Check it against the correctly scaled Ford smallblock engine in Revell's '32 Fords and you'll see what I mean.

 

There is a Revell '34 Ford based on the T chassis in this kit that is REALLY undersized, as it was shrunken to fit the tiny T chassis. Stay away from that one.



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Posted 05 January 2013 - 09:01 AM

Richard, I'm pretty sure the kit scales out to 1/25. Model-Ts were quite small cars.



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Posted 05 January 2013 - 09:20 AM

Richard, I'm pretty sure the kit scales out to 1/25. Model-Ts were quite small cars.

Yes, Steve is right. I build 1:1 hot rods for a living, have a bookcase full of reference material on the old stuff, and just checked the actual measurements. Not opinion. Fact.



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Posted 05 January 2013 - 09:53 AM

aright , thnx guys well i guess that the problem when you live in bloody holland and almost never can see those cars 4 real. i did see a real model t pick up ounce but that was in a shipping container so always good to get such info from you guys :)

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 04:26 AM

started the chassis and suspension , more assmebly then the revell kits , wich is a nice change ..
the cast isnt great loads of sand work but that will be fine :)
just a bit more work



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engine and transmission



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rear dif and brakes



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rear suspension




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front suspension




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Edited by crazyrichard, 06 January 2013 - 04:27 AM.


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Posted 07 January 2013 - 05:40 AM

well i cut the whole cab into pieces and i'm making it smaller with the bench as seat ....

maybe a round tank behind the cab ??

the cab gave me a fight , nothing lined up after cutting , but with some patience i managed to get something going , waht you see on the pics isnt done but already very solid

not really trying to get the dimensions perfectly the same like a real t-bucket just trying to get something cool going



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all rough >> still needs loads of work




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Edited by crazyrichard, 07 January 2013 - 05:44 AM.


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Posted 07 January 2013 - 07:15 AM

I'd love to see this build, but for some reason, I am unable to view the photos :( 



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Posted 07 January 2013 - 09:37 AM

hmmm weird .. i can see them myself ??
anybody else here who cant see them ?? if so please leave a message :)


when i looked at these 2 .. love both the vintage style and the tweedy pie so maybe something in between ?


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maybe i will shorten the frame like the ones above (lenght) so the t is short wheel based


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got the seems nice and smooth , that body is a real frankenstein , needed some good plastic surgery to become smaller ..
from touring to .....lol


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Edited by crazyrichard, 07 January 2013 - 09:40 AM.


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Posted 07 January 2013 - 09:46 AM

LOOKS GREAT RICHARD!!!



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Posted 08 January 2013 - 05:26 AM

LOOKS GREAT RICHARD!!!


thnx ira !!

you dont think the sides of the cab are to small ? like in hight ?

oh and good news this means tou can see the pics :) lol since the other guy could not see them

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 05:35 AM

Since you have all that room left in front how about a Chevy inline six in there? I think they look awesome in hot rods.



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Posted 08 January 2013 - 06:29 AM

Koool.



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Posted 08 January 2013 - 07:23 AM

thnx hak and @ Jantrix hmm could be cool but i'm thinking of shortening the chassis and adding a nice fat v8 .. kind of had that in my mind and love the look that way , but def. could be cool to do a long inline engine !

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 09:02 AM

hey ,

made a firewall today from a side of the hood , with the louvres on it , on the flat parts on the right i made a brake booster

i used a old revell booster and made the top half as big , made it sit more fluch against the wall and added a new top


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then shortened the chassis to get the look like i showed with the reference pics



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with the body on



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not doing a rear tank , want a clear rear end where the dif and suspension is visible

also reglued the top part of the window , the chopped window made it look weird and too small , now you can see a person looks big in it due to the window hight



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love this chassis like this visible , something different from closed rails for ounce



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later when everything is sorted out i will make some extra support members in between the chassis (from side to side)

Edited by crazyrichard, 09 January 2013 - 09:05 AM.


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Posted 10 January 2013 - 11:10 PM

dont mind the brake set up on the firewall , i realised i screwed that up and ..... going to change that


used the roof to make a smooth underside on the rear , now the rear will flow into the rear bottom nicely



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sanded the rough shape into it




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some bondo



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shortened the drive shaft after the frame was shortened




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made a small round space in the firewall , maily for looks it ran free of the engine / trans but this looks better




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Edited by crazyrichard, 10 January 2013 - 11:11 PM.


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Posted 11 January 2013 - 08:34 AM

changed the brake booster , i hate it and i will use some reference on the net and make a complete scratch version later


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the underside came out smooth


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so the body sides flow over into the bottom with smooth corners


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sides are pretty sleak as well


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closed the floor section


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i made a small fake tunnel just felt it looked a bit better instead of all flat


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the firewall lines match nice with the seat



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found a cool interiour pic of a t


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Edited by crazyrichard, 11 January 2013 - 08:35 AM.


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Posted 11 January 2013 - 10:17 AM

flattened the front floor after bondo


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made a new brake ... with reservoir


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made the steering colom true the floor like the reference pic in my previous post , will make the pedals tomorrow


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dryfit



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good impression of the stance



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Edited by crazyrichard, 11 January 2013 - 10:17 AM.


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Posted 11 January 2013 - 11:22 AM

Thats actually turning out pretty cool!



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Posted 11 January 2013 - 11:36 AM

It's turning out very cool !   The shortened chassis with the tall windshield helps the look a lot ,  and the new brake master cylinder looks good .

You've done a lot of surgery to get the body the way it is and it looks great !  Keep posting !