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#1 kilrathy10

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 01:02 PM

032_zps18c9569d.jpg018a_zps93d43d80.jpg       Got another race rig for you...I plan on making the Scania look more like an American race hauler...I think I've got a pretty good idea of what I want, but I'll be winging it as usual, so We'll see...I started this at the top of December, but I had to start using Photobucket; because this thing wouldn't let me load pics like I used to...I guess I'll just have to get used to it...But, anyway, this is what I have, so far...


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#2 Renegade

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 01:26 PM

Can't wait JT.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 02:08 PM

JT, I have built a few of this Scania in the past. It is a very nice kit, builds up easyly but there is one big problem if you gonna built it out of the box as a 4x2.

Italeri used the same frame as the 143 cabover, which has plenty off room back of the cab, but this frame is too short for the conventional 143. A good way to correct it is by streching the frame about 30mm. By adding 30mm to the frame leght, then you gonna have inough space to hook your trailer.

 

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#4 kilrathy10

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 04:50 PM

JT, I have built a few of this Scania in the past. It is a very nice kit, builds up easyly but there is one big problem if you gonna built it out of the box as a 4x2.

Italeri used the same frame as the 143 cabover, which has plenty off room back of the cab, but this frame is too short for the conventional 143. A good way to correct it is by streching the frame about 30mm. By adding 30mm to the frame leght, then you gonna have inough space to hook your trailer.

 

Kostas.

You know what, Man....I just discovered that as I was test fitting the cab over the frame...It was not looking quite right, and you just clued me in as to what was wrong...I may have to take your advice and stretch it a bit, but I'm not really looking forward to it...Hopefully I can figure some other way around it...



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Posted 06 January 2013 - 06:43 PM

Do a test fit with trailer hooked to the chassis with the cab on it before you start cutting the chassis, with galaxie trailers hitch pin being as forward as it is, you might have enough room



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Posted 06 January 2013 - 10:29 PM

Also, since you aren't coupling it to a normal European trailer, You could mount the 5th wheel farther back on the frame. No need to cut n paste.

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 12:55 AM

Guys, on the European 4x2 trucks, the 5th wheel is positioned forward than the drive axle and not above it. Thats because of rules about weight and also about keeping the loaded truck easy to be driven.

So its not only mater where is the kingpin of the trailer.

As I said before, by adding 30mm to the frame you can have a correct 4x2 Scania conventional frame, talking about this specific kit of Scania.

JT, if you don't like the 4x2 look, you can always convert is to 6x4 or 6x2. You have great scruchbuild skills so go for it.

 

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 02:03 PM

Guys, on the European 4x2 trucks, the 5th wheel is positioned forward than the drive axle and not above it. Thats because of rules about weight and also about keeping the loaded truck easy to be driven.

So its not only mater where is the kingpin of the trailer.

As I said before, by adding 30mm to the frame you can have a correct 4x2 Scania conventional frame, talking about this specific kit of Scania.

JT, if you don't like the 4x2 look, you can always convert is to 6x4 or 6x2. You have great scruchbuild skills so go for it.

 

Kostas.

But he is converting it to a US truck, so the fifth wheel can move back over the rear axle , giving him enough room and not having to extend the chassis any,  also, you have to remember that if leaving the fifth wheel were it for EU rules, there would not be any room for the truck and trailer to turn with the trailer hitting the end of the frame



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Posted 07 January 2013 - 06:13 PM

JT put the 5th wheel where u want..DOTD wont mind...gona look good when u finish..



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Posted 07 January 2013 - 07:22 PM

Thanks, Boys for the excellent advice...As I further examined the truck and trailer, it does seem that I'll be able to get away with mounting the fifth wheel further back towards the end of the frame....And, I'm gonna build more of a custom 5th wheel mount as seen on the Testors Ford F-650 Die Cast model....I've been toying around with quite a few ideas and I will put them to the test, tomorrow, I hope...Looking for some serious rain storms, so I don't know if out grid will hold up....As long as I have power, I'll be fine.... :) Thanks, Guys...



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Posted 10 January 2013 - 08:50 PM

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 08:54 PM

030a_zps2467e0fa.jpg031a_zps491265a9.jpgWhen I finally got the cab and all together, it was definitely a funny looking thing....But once I added the bed to it, it made a lot more sense...At that point, I was kinda on a roll....I added a modest headache rack and painted it...Gonna add diamond plate to the bed floor and rear step, and it'll be pretty much ready to get a shine and a Galaxie trailer...


Edited by kilrathy10, 11 January 2013 - 09:23 AM.


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Posted 12 January 2013 - 03:20 PM

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#14 kilrathy10

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 03:25 PM

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 12:36 PM

You nailed it!!!!! Now it is perfect!!! That sort wheelbase is what exactly was needed to do the job for this build.

It is great, nice & clean built, although it looks still a little bit strange in my eyes, with the fifth wheen instaled so far back.

Looking forward to see it done with the trailer.

 

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 03:43 PM

Looks good



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Posted 28 January 2013 - 09:53 PM

Got the trailer done, but I don't think this is exactly what I had in mind....It seems a little short for this rig....It would look better with a hot shot car hauler....And I think I'm totally gonna do that....I'll get started on it, soon...037a_zps8ab40490.jpg033a_zps77d55e43.jpg



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Posted 28 January 2013 - 11:24 PM

Cool looking little baby rig you got there JT.



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Posted 29 January 2013 - 02:14 PM

Nice rig.  The Scania conversion looks great.

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 02:43 PM

I like whaht you did with the Scania looks good