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[Futurabat]

 

Why not go directly to the source and ask your friends who work there?

 

 

What makes you think for one minute I haven't?!? If I knew something different than what's already here I certainly would repoort it! Now please leave me alone Casey I have no desire at all to converse with you!

[MAGNUM4342]

FYI:  The soon-to-be-reissued 1/16 Nascar Petty Charger kits will be on their way to America soon, but a new announcement regarding this reissue has just been released; the following message is from the manufacturer:

 

"The MPC-767 1/16 Petty Charger kit has been molded with an opaque "Petty Blue" body as opposed to a clear body. After several attempts using various types of plastics and injection tricks, we were not able to achieve the quality or durability we needed in order to do the kit with a clear body. The age of the tooling along with the recent backdating work we had to do were the reasons. We had to make the decision to mold the body in Petty blue instead, which is reflected in the updated packaging. The chassis/motor/interior parts are molded in grey, similar to the original kit."

 

 

 

Jacen got the exact same response, not necessarily in the same words as the above. The question was asked and the press style response was what was given. Maybe Jacen could have presented the statement in different wordage so as not to confuse you?

Edited by MAGNUM4342, 18 January 2013 - 12:09 PM.

[Casey]

Pics have been posted at Randy Ayer's NASCAR forum, so these'll have to do until someone here can post pics:

 

http://www.randyayer...er=asc&start=30

 

 

And some info from the linked topic above, regarding why he body molding color change might've been made:

 

"It was my understanding that a plastic supplier in PA had created a custom material back in the '70s that would properly fill the mold, retain clarity without showing knit lines, wouldn't be too brittle for handling and assembly, and wouldn't be affected by stress cracking when exposed to the oils from human skin. No one at the company had files going back that far and they weren't able to recreate an acceptable material."

[Bad Apple]

Does anyone know if Buddy Baker decals are gonna be made for this kit in the aftermarket? I checked over on slixx site but didn't anything listed.

['70 Grande]

Bad Apple,

Regarding Buddy Baker decals, see the Dave Van post on the previous page, (page 4), here.

[Greg Myers]

Pics have been posted at Randy Ayer's NASCAR forum, so these'll have to do until someone here can post pics:

 

http://www.randyayer...er=asc&start=30

 

 

And some info from the linked topic above, regarding why he body molding color change might've been made:

 

"It was my understanding that a plastic supplier in PA had created a custom material back in the '70s that would properly fill the mold, retain clarity without showing knit lines, wouldn't be too brittle for handling and assembly, and wouldn't be affected by stress cracking when exposed to the oils from human skin. No one at the company had files going back that far and they weren't able to recreate an acceptable material."

Looking at all of the other model company's, foreign and domestic, along with the many releases from Polar Lights  (i.e. Ghost series) it hardly seems realistic to be anything like that.

Edited by Greg Myers, 19 January 2013 - 06:31 AM.

[Casey]

Looking at all of the other model company's, foreign and domestic, along with the many releases from Polar Lights  (i.e. Ghost series) it hardly seems realistic to be anything like that.

 

Do all these other plastic bodies have the same requirements as this 1/16 Charger body? It seems the spreading requirement for this kit is the main difference, and though the only clear body part I recall having in my hands was the 1/20 MPC Vette hood, it would definitely not have flexed without breaking or cracking.

 

It sounds to me like the people at Round2 gave an honest effort and tried to make the clear body happen, but it just wasn't reasonable or possible at this time. I'm sure they are just as bummed, as the clear body is likely a huge marketing/selling point for them.

[Greg Myers]

" the only clear body part I recall having in my hands was the 1/20th MPC Vette hood" You're kidding, right ?

[Greg Myers]

Edited by Greg Myers, 19 January 2013 - 08:31 AM.

[MAGNUM4342]

The only one in the pics above I see that would be stressed during mounting is the Pearson GTO. The rest look like they go on easy, especially the dragster.

[Futurabat]

I had the Pearson kit a few years back. Body shattered when I tried to put it on the chassis.  

[Greg Myers]

 

Must be something really hard to master

Edited by Greg Myers, 19 January 2013 - 10:08 AM.

[hpiguy]

Round 2/AMT makes a large Star Trek Enterprise D kit in clear (for those of us that want to light it). It's quite a few pieces and the saucer sections are huge.  So size and detail couldn't be a reason for not using clear either.

The price on the clear Enterprise is about $50 though.

 

My guess is cost. Probably cheaper to mold it from light blue plastic and hit the sub $40 mark retail.

[Dave Van]

Cost and flexibility are only two of MANY issue when making a clear body kit. Please note that none of the more recent kits are near the size of the Petty Charger, not near the age of the Petty mold......that has been modified a number of times.  I have two friends in the industrial molding industry......both talk about how hard it would be to get a mold the size of the Petty kit to come out correct EVERY time.....which is what is required in mass production. Ten percent rejects would have raised the cost a bunch. 

 

I am thankful R2 spent the money to restore the kit......I'd take the kit in pink right now.......

[Johnny]

Amen Dave!

[Dragline]

This whole clear business is academic. Buy it if you love excellently detailed kits of iconic cars, pass if you love gimmicks and pseudo features.

 

 

 

For me the truth is that R2 loves models and are busting their B@lls to get us once lost treasures.. These are the guys who complain about the weight of the gold once handed to them.

 

 

Philistines all.

 

 

 

Bob

[Greg Myers]

 

 

 

It's all about seeing what's going on inside

Edited by Greg Myers, 19 January 2013 - 03:42 PM.

[Mark]

 
 
 
It's all about seeing what's going on inside

No single piece in either of the aircraft kits is anywhere near as complicated as the one-piece Charger body. The airplane wings, and even the fuselage halves, are molded using relatively simple tooling compared to what is needed for a one-piece car body.

[Greg Myers]

[Plasticfanatic]

I have built an original issue Petty Charger 1/16, it's simply an amazing kit, build it out of the box is a stunning and detailed model..add extra Detail pieces and you have a magnificent vintage NASCAR model. I will be ordering one of the reissue kits and build it again. I still have my original built Petty Charger in a glass case, it show it's age...BUT..STILL my favorite in my small collection...I even saved the original boxtop.