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#41 Danno

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 08:49 AM

Read the rule for the novice class.  Taken at face value, people like Larry Booth, probably Randy Derr and a whole lot of top builders don't finish 10 models in 3 years. 

 

I once built 26 models in one year.  I wanted to enter every class in our club contest.   They were all junk but by the rules that would make me a professional builder. 

 

 

 

Hey!   By those definitions, I'm a "Novice," too!   Move over, kids.  :P

 

 

I don't see the term "professional builder" in the rules, but, okay, you're a professional builder! 

 

Just make sure all your entries are in the "Advanced" category so we "Novices" won't have to compete with you "pros!"

 

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#42 Erik Smith

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 10:05 AM

But now the whiners are whining about the whiners who are whining whiners. What? ;)

I fully support everybody's right to voice an opinion. As stated before, I like the concept of the contest. One complaint? Make it global!

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 10:11 AM

You can't win it if you an't in it. Hay they are trying to get people building models again is that not why we have clubs



#44 slammedi'am

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 10:41 AM

The only complaint I have is that they should have used the Lightning instead of one of the 2 old Ford kits...Would been nice to see it with the 99 Chevy and The Dodge truck



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Posted 13 January 2013 - 10:44 AM

I'm not sure they are really doing the contest with us in mind.   They know we are going to buy the kits that interest us.   They also probably know that the quality builders from this forum and the major contest around the county will win but I think their main goal is to get new people involved.   That is one thing that I think we all want to happen so for me, I'll buy a kit that I normally wouldn't and enter just to support their cause.  



#46 Danno

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 11:11 AM

What's a whinner?

 

 

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 04:28 PM

like many who posted on here im not thrilled with the kits offered.  i'll be out of my comfort zone with all but 3 of these kits but i am actually looking forward to this contest.  this gives me a good reason to try something new be creative with my build.



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Posted 13 January 2013 - 05:29 PM

Heck I don't care, it just basically FORCES me to actually get a build done! I think I'm going in with a 2010 Camaro since I've got one in the stash. Was gonna do the Ed Roth F100...but I decided I have different plans for that one ;)



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Posted 13 January 2013 - 05:46 PM

I think the list of elegible kits is not that interesting.  I may try and build one of the trucks.  Anyone else have an opinion on all auto kits being modern muscle?

 

I think they are going to have a banner year selling truck kits.



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Posted 13 January 2013 - 05:56 PM

The only complaint I have is that they should have used the Lightning instead of one of the 2 old Ford kits...Would been nice to see it with the 99 Chevy and The Dodge truck

 

Folks need to slow down for a moment and re-read the rules and understand what this contest is based on. This contest is designed to try and spark added interest in the hobby of building models, especially for those that don't already build. Secondly, it's designed to add profit margin to Revell's bottomline. The available kit list is based on current released models that fit into the categories that they have created. They are not excluding anyone by not providing a more exciting list (if that is your complaint). They are not going to include older released kits because they are not readily accessible on mass market shelves.

 

As well, according to the rules, you cannot go to your "stash" and pull out a model for entry. It is designed for the entrant to go out and purchase a model that is listed, during the time period notated. That way it keeps the competition on a somewhat level playing field and eliminates the builder that would simply photograph a model that they have already built (not that anyone here would do that). It also creates a marketing opportunity to increase profitability, as I already mentioned above. And I fit into the slightly frustrated category as I saw the list and decided that I could build the Viper ACR kit that I just picked up last week. But to do so honestly I have to go out and purchase it again, during the timetable listed.

 

So, people can voice their displeasure over the listed models all they want. This is most likely why the list is what it is. And as many folks that are not happy with it there are probably just as many that are happy with it.



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Posted 13 January 2013 - 08:07 PM

 

Folks need to slow down for a moment and re-read the rules and understand what this contest is based on. This contest is designed to try and spark added interest in the hobby of building models, especially for those that don't already build. Secondly, it's designed to add profit margin to Revell's bottomline. The available kit list is based on current released models that fit into the categories that they have created. They are not excluding anyone by not providing a more exciting list (if that is your complaint). They are not going to include older released kits because they are not readily accessible on mass market shelves.

 

As well, according to the rules, you cannot go to your "stash" and pull out a model for entry. It is designed for the entrant to go out and purchase a model that is listed, during the time period notated. That way it keeps the competition on a somewhat level playing field and eliminates the builder that would simply photograph a model that they have already built (not that anyone here would do that). It also creates a marketing opportunity to increase profitability, as I already mentioned above. And I fit into the slightly frustrated category as I saw the list and decided that I could build the Viper ACR kit that I just picked up last week. But to do so honestly I have to go out and purchase it again, during the timetable listed.

 

So, people can voice their displeasure over the listed models all they want. This is most likely why the list is what it is. And as many folks that are not happy with it there are probably just as many that are happy with it.

Very well said,  these contest are not aimed at builders that live on internet model forums, so that is why they did not come on here and ask all of you what kits they should include for the upcoming contests.  This idea is to get new people into the hobby.    Kind of like how new customers  get the better deals then the long term customers, its all about growth and the bottom line.

 

I just skimmed the rules,  do you have to show proof of purchase for the kit?


Edited by martinfan5, 13 January 2013 - 08:12 PM.


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Posted 13 January 2013 - 08:46 PM

I just skimmed the rules, do you have to show proof of purchase for the kit?

 

 

 

Short answer: Yes.

 

 

Long answer: Yes.

 

 

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 09:32 PM

 
 
 
Short answer: Yes. Ooo

 
 
Long answer: Yes.
 
 
:rolleyes:

Revell was asked directly last year and said buying a kit during the contest (while in the rules) was not a requirement.

If they are going to enforce it this year, then like he pointed out, Wayne's out of luck since the contest doesn't officially start until February 1st making his ACR "illegal" to enter.

That's ridiculous regardless of Revell's desire to move some kits this Winter. I own every kit on the list (except the Roth truck, but I own a different issue of the same kit) so I should be penalized for financially supporting Revell when the kits were issued? None of the kits are new, I think the Shelby GT500 and reissue of the Silverado are the freshest things on that list at over 6 months old.

Edited by niteowl7710, 13 January 2013 - 09:40 PM.


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Posted 14 January 2013 - 02:48 AM

 

 

 

Short answer: Yes.

 

 

Long answer: Yes.

 

 

:rolleyes:

 

I didn't see anything about requiring proof of purchase on Revell's site. Can you point me to the line in the rules regarding that, Dan?



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Posted 14 January 2013 - 06:11 AM

 

I didn't see anything about requiring proof of purchase on Revell's site. Can you point me to the line in the rules regarding that, Dan?

 

 

From the Contest Rules:

"To Enter:

Entrants must log on to www.revell.com to enter online. Buy one (1) new Revell or Monogram brand model within the Contest Period (February 1, 2013 – May 15, 2013). The list of eligible model kits can be found at www.revell.com or at your local Revell retailer. Complete the online entry form and submit it electronically along with up to five (5) photos of your model (up to 2 MB per image)."

 

 

 

 

 

The rules require that an entrant submit an online entry, which may only be submitted if the following is "checked:"

 

 

By clicking the checkbox, I verify that I personally built the Revell or Monogram plastic model submitted for consideration using one of the eligible Hot Rod models. I understand that I am also accepting all terms and conditions of the Contest. For a complete list of terms and conditions, see the Contest Rules.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Requiring proof of purchase?  Maybe not directly required upon initial entry.  I don't know if they follow up on the purchase requirement.

 

 

 

Sure, anyone could cheat.   But, I'd be willing to bet that anyone selected to win any prize will be asked for that proof of purchase. 

 

If not, that person might win a prize by cheating.  Congratulations to them.  They might as well have a "professional" builder construct their entry, too.

 

 

 

As has been mentioned by others, the major impetus for Revell to go to all this trouble is to promote sales.  They even refer to it as a "promotion."  No secrets there.  It's their promotion/contest.  And they are entitled to set their own rules for their own promotion/contest. 

 

If entrants bypass the rule requiring purchase (i.e., cheat) and if entrants who did not purchase their kits during the contest period (i.e., cheat) are selected to win prizes, then Revell is also entitled to decide the promotion was not worth the trouble, especially if sales aren't sufficiently increased. 

 

Even if proof of purchase is not required to be delivered at time of entry, it is a requirement of the rules. 

 

Besides jeopardizing the whole thing*, following the rules is all about ethics, integrity, and character of the entrants.  Those are attributes determined by conduct and behavior whether there is a 'hall monitor' checking receipts at the door.

 

 

 

*Disclaimer for this aspect of my statement:  Realistically, I know ~ or at least I hope ~ that cheating by bypassing the purchase requirement rule is not likely to be widespread enough to persuade Revell to discontinue the whole thing.  But it is possible. 

 

 

 

 

B)



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Posted 14 January 2013 - 06:44 AM

It says you need to buy the kit - as posted by Dan above.  However, I looked at the entry form and didn't see any place to enter receipt information.  Might be required for winners - an after-the-fact verification.  

 

Really, why bother trying to cheat the rules?  If you don't want to enter the contest, build the model you have already bought and put it on your shelf.  If you want to join - buy one of the kits they are offering during the time slot allowed, build it, and enter.  It's really simple.  

 

Again, as stated in my first post on the topic and repeated numerous times in other posts - this is a marketing effort from Revell.  THE WHOLE POINT of this process is to increase sales.  Do they want you to show off your skills?  Sure, to a point.  But, sad to say, they don't care that much.  They want to sell models - to new builders, seasoned builders, to whoever might have $20.  So, why beat a dead horse about "we need this kit in there" or "why do I have to buy another kit", look at from Revell's point - produce model kit, sell model kit, make money.  In the long haul, the more money Revell makes on this endeavor, the more new tool kits we get from them.  It's a win-win.  Join another contest if you want to build any kit you want in your stash.



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Posted 14 January 2013 - 06:59 AM

Requiring proof of purchase?  Maybe not directly required upon initial entry.  I don't know if they follow up on the purchase requirement.

 

 

It says you need to buy the kit - as posted by Dan above.  However, I looked at the entry form and didn't see any place to enter receipt information.  Might be required for winners - an after-the-fact verification.  

 

Thanks. That's what I was seeing, as well. We do have some past winners on the forum; maybe one of them can chime in if they were asked to show proof of purchase?



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Posted 14 January 2013 - 07:17 AM

What's a whinner?

 

 

:mellow:

Someone who complains about finishing in first place...



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Posted 14 January 2013 - 07:20 AM

Someone who complains about finishing in first place...

 

That is fantastic. :lol:



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Posted 14 January 2013 - 08:20 AM

 

Someone who complains about finishing in first place...

 

 

 

 

 

 

GREAT answer!!! :lol: :P