Jump to content


Box art.


  • You cannot reply to this topic
57 replies to this topic

#21 martinfan5

martinfan5

    MCM Ohana

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 9,200 posts
  • Location:Los Santos, San Andreas
  • Full Name:Jonathan Stephens

Posted 18 January 2013 - 09:33 PM

Hmmm...box "art" versus photos of the actual contents. I'll admit that in many cases box "art" can be eye catching and can cause one to stop and look at a model they might not have. However for me, I would much rather have photos (non re-touched) of the actual kit. I could care less if it's a professionally built box-top-model if it's done decent. Show me what i'm getting, not an artists conception of what it could be.

Agreed



#22 Junkman

Junkman

    MCM Ohana

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,226 posts
  • Location:England
  • Full Name:Christian Pamp

Posted 19 January 2013 - 10:01 AM

Half of my collection consists of stuff purely bought for the box art.

#23 sjordan2

sjordan2

    MCM Ohana

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,636 posts
  • Location:Knoxville, TN
  • Full Name:Skip Jordan

Posted 19 January 2013 - 11:38 AM

In my estimation, nearly all model kit box art -- especially the paintings -- is second-rate when it comes to technique. That covers everything that isn't a photo on page one of this thread. One of the very few pieces of excellent painting that I've seen is this one... I have this kit, and it's as excellent in its production as the taste of the manufacturer who okayed the box art.

 

I think most of the Revell of Germany art of the past few years has also been quite good.

 

 

Entex8452Mercer_zps2090a39b.jpg


Edited by sjordan2, 19 January 2013 - 11:59 AM.


#24 Eshaver

Eshaver

    MCM Ohana

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,869 posts
  • Location:Richmond Virginia for now
  • Full Name:Ed Shaver

Posted 19 January 2013 - 11:52 AM

A M T's gorgeous art prints in 1969 were the all time high point in their history. Monogram had a few hits , so did Revell. A M T blew it period when they were held hostage by Racing Champions . I dunno how many times a box art model was depicted on a box , only to be something ENTIRELY different with in the box .



#25 Von Don Koolkat

Von Don Koolkat

    MCM Regular

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 62 posts
  • Location:California
  • Full Name:Don 'Koolkat' Graham

Posted 19 January 2013 - 12:13 PM

I've talked with several modelers who already had this kit - but bought this version just because of the box art.
 

 

http://images57.fotk..._beswick-vi.jpg



#26 lordairgtar

lordairgtar

    MCM Ohana

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,761 posts
  • Location:Muskego Wisconsin

Posted 20 January 2013 - 08:55 AM

I think most of us are too much of insiders for the box art to affect us! We know what's going on from the rumor stage of a new kit, so we know what we will and won't buy before it ever hits the market.

 

Box art is a big seller to the general public, those that see kits for the first time on the hobby shop shelf.  We seldom see stuff we don't already know about.  Remember the excitement as a kid when you went store to store to look at the model selection.  You'd find new kits you never knew existed and that was very exciting.   And there was box art that absolutely sold kits!  For me it was the Revell '57 Nomad kit. That beach scene got me time and time again.  I really wanted to have the car on the box top!

 

Mvc001s-vi.jpg

 

Here's the box.  Note the Bob Paeth autograph in the sand!

...and if you look closely, you will see that the chrome reverse wheels are actually black and white photos from a different car. Bob Paeth's car in fact, an old Rambler. They at Revell did not like the wheels the car used so they took a B&W photo of the rambler wheel and cut and pasted the wheels the old fashioned way by actually cutting the pic and pasting it over the Chevy's wheels.



#27 sjordan2

sjordan2

    MCM Ohana

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,636 posts
  • Location:Knoxville, TN
  • Full Name:Skip Jordan

Posted 20 January 2013 - 10:01 AM

...and if you look closely, you will see that the chrome reverse wheels are actually black and white photos from a different car. Bob Paeth's car in fact, an old Rambler. They at Revell did not like the wheels the car used so they took a B&W photo of the rambler wheel and cut and pasted the wheels the old fashioned way by actually cutting the pic and pasting it over the Chevy's wheels.

 

I remember that story. He was an excellent artist and art director.



#28 1972coronet

1972coronet

    MCM Ohana

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,320 posts
  • Location:Murrieta (South-West Riverside County) , Ca
  • Full Name:John Shoe

Posted 20 January 2013 - 12:55 PM

As a visual and conceptual artist , the box art is a huge attraction !

 

I'll be 43 in April ; I first started building in '73 or '74 , and my sole decisions for a 32nd scale snap kit was based upon what was on the box (Monogram's Funny Car series was my favourite !).

I ostensibly missed out on the golden era of box art (the Pop Art / Psychedelic artwork of '63-'70) , though I certainly do recall seeing those kits' boxes at older cousins' houses and in thrift stores and in outdated stock at dep't stores when I was a kid (wanted to build them , but they were beyond my abilities ...).

 

When I started on glue kits (around '75 / '76) I was drawn (no pun intended) to the MPC annuals . Sears seemed to keep quite a few of them in their stock !

Also , being of an abstract mind , the reissues of Tom Daniel's kits (Vandal , etc.) were a feast for the eyes !

 

In subsequent years , I've passed on many kits just because of the crappy cover art ! The RC-2 era of AMT was thee worst !!

 

In summary : The boxes' art still is a subliminal decisor for me , but not as big a deterrent as it was in the past .

The neuvaux Revell box art is attractive . Round2's box art is the absolute best (and , yes , that's in full recognition that some of it is repro AMT and MPC work , which is-was another favourite of mine !) .



#29 Craig Irwin

Craig Irwin

    MCM Ohana

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,766 posts
  • Location:Pendleton Indiana ( near Indianapolis)

Posted 20 January 2013 - 03:04 PM

A lot of box art was really cool, but it really boiled down to subject.



#30 Shardik

Shardik

    MCM Ohana

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 758 posts
  • Location:Greeley, Colorado
  • Full Name:Johann H. Buerfeind V

Posted 20 January 2013 - 03:12 PM

     I've gone both ways on this issue.  Generally, I'm looking for a specific vehicle when I go to the LHS.  In that case, the only thing I'm looking for on the box is some photographic evidence of what's in the box (assuming I haven't read a review beforehand).  The folks at Lindberg taught me to be skeptical in this regard, with their beautiful pictures of 1:1 cars in studio settings that make them look like they could be well made models.

     There are times, however, when I'm in a rut and looking for inspiration.  At these times, since I'm generally looking at unfamiliar subjects, the box art can be the whole justification for the purchase.  Since I go into these with minimal expectations in the first place, I'm rarely disappointed.



#31 zenrat

zenrat

    MCM Ohana

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 839 posts
  • Location:Mount Martha, Victoria, Australia
  • Full Name:Fred Maillardet

Posted 21 January 2013 - 11:36 AM

...and if you look closely, you will see that the chrome reverse wheels are actually black and white photos from a different car. Bob Paeth's car in fact, an old Rambler. They at Revell did not like the wheels the car used so they took a B&W photo of the rambler wheel and cut and pasted the wheels the old fashioned way by actually cutting the pic and pasting it over the Chevy's wheels.

 

IIRC the original had/has Buick wires and Revell didn't want to tool up for them for some reason.



#32 Tom Geiger

Tom Geiger

    MCM Ohana

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,044 posts
  • Location:Exton, PA
  • Full Name:Tom Geiger

Posted 21 January 2013 - 03:54 PM

...and if you look closely, you will see that the chrome reverse wheels are actually black and white photos from a different car. Bob Paeth's car in fact, an old Rambler. They at Revell did not like the wheels the car used so they took a B&W photo of the rambler wheel and cut and pasted the wheels the old fashioned way by actually cutting the pic and pasting it over the Chevy's wheels.

 

MVC010S-vi.jpg

 

True story and I got to hear it first hand from Bob himself at the GSL in 2001. The pic above is me, Bob Paeth and Tom Daniel in 2003.



#33 gtx6970

gtx6970

    MCM Ohana

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,877 posts
  • Location:Northern Ky
  • Full Name:Bill Allphin

Posted 04 February 2013 - 06:42 AM

Box art might influence what kit I but over another only if the 2 kits are exactly the same. Meaning if the box is either an original or replica of some old version of said kit  . As an example. I was looking for  an AMT 1955 Nomad recently and I tried to get one of the original / older issues with some really cool box art lid.

But,,alas I ended up just getting one of the newer releases with the boring artwork on the cover.

But otherwise it means nothing to me . I buy for whats inside.


Edited by gtx6970, 04 February 2013 - 06:44 AM.


#34 Greg Myers

Greg Myers

    MCM Ohana

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,299 posts
  • Location:Phoenix, AZ
  • Full Name:Gregory Myers

Posted 04 February 2013 - 06:58 AM

Best box art ever.

 

Revell_55chevy%20copy.jpg

 

Bought a bunch of these over the years. :P



#35 Draggon

Draggon

    MCM Ohana

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,792 posts
  • Location:Home of the Fremont Drag Strip
  • Full Name:Glenn Asher

Posted 04 February 2013 - 11:39 AM

I must say  box art got me into the JDM/Shakotan/Bosozuko/GranChan thing. Yea, I'm 58, but I can appreciate drastically lowered cars.

 

402-2.jpg



#36 Guest_G Holding_*

Guest_G Holding_*
  • Guests

Posted 04 February 2013 - 12:28 PM

I have seen some great box art....Couple of builders photo shopped their builds onto the kit box...complete with logos and all. The one I fell for was the 48 Ford custom from Revell...Donn Yost Edition ! ...Yeah I found out that it was bogus, But it looked real to me!



#37 Casey

Casey

    MCM Ohana

  • Moderator
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 7,901 posts
  • Location:Men. Falls, WI
  • Full Name:Casey Littmann

Posted 11 February 2013 - 08:57 AM

If the box art doesn't feature a car poppin' a wheelie while smoking the tires, and doesn't have red-hot flames shooting out of the headers, I'm not even pickin' it up.  <_<  :lol:

 

lindtcup.jpg



#38 Casey

Casey

    MCM Ohana

  • Moderator
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 7,901 posts
  • Location:Men. Falls, WI
  • Full Name:Casey Littmann

Posted 11 February 2013 - 09:09 AM

I think I have a new favorite, even ignoring the crush I had on Faye Dunaway from the 1967 movie:

 

T2eC16FHJGkE9no8fzCBQon72C9Q60_57.jpg

 

 

Bullet holes stamped out of the box lid? THAT is a nice touch.  :wub:



#39 Erik Smith

Erik Smith

    MCM Ohana

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,799 posts
  • Location:Spokane, WA
  • Full Name:Erik Smith

Posted 11 February 2013 - 07:42 PM

I would buy this for the box art:

 

563dca6e-4074-43d3-84b7-795d5225ea6e_zps



#40 Casey

Casey

    MCM Ohana

  • Moderator
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 7,901 posts
  • Location:Men. Falls, WI
  • Full Name:Casey Littmann

Posted 11 February 2013 - 08:08 PM

I would buy this for the box art:

 

 

 

Ah-ha! THAT'S why there are two Moon tanks among the chrome parts.  :)  Yes, that box art is fantastic. BTW.  ;)