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#161 Mr. Moparman

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Posted 17 October 2014 - 01:43 AM

Man, I've never seen anybody tear the Revell kit up so bad. I just have to ask, what exactly is wrong with it?



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Posted 17 October 2014 - 06:07 AM

Man, I've never seen anybody tear the Revell kit up so bad. I just have to ask, what exactly is wrong with it?


What is wrong with it?

The rear frame rails goes straight out in the rear instead up curving back up. The rear leaf shackle mounts doesn't look like the real ones. The bend at the rear axle that goes down under isn't correct. Now moving to the front end, the grill frame top plate has the bolts molded in the wrong spots, they are in fact on the head light door covers area where they should be in fact on the top area above the tip of the grill. On the real chargers of the 2nd gen, the firewall has a few bends in it. The revell one has one bend. The whole wall is straight up and down. On the real ones there is a lot of ribbon and bends. The wheel wells support area for the upper a-arms is straight where as on the real ones they tilt inwards at the rear and outwards at the front. The wheel hubs on the model needs to be moved upwards and shorten as the front wheels sticks to far unlike the rear. The rad support is straight across where as the real ones has a lot of indention's in front on the sides of the radiator.

Besides that stuff and the kit having a doubled floor, it's a good kit.

Besides, I have always wondered what a model of a charger would look like if a model company would have made a more correct looking one with all the details from a real 2nd gen one put into a scale version one.

I have access to a 1/1 '69 Charger and a lot of photos from it as ref as well an measurements to.

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Posted 17 October 2014 - 06:59 AM

What is wrong with it?

The rear frame rails goes straight out in the rear instead up curving back up. The rear leaf shackle mounts doesn't look like the real ones. The bend at the rear axle that goes down under isn't correct. Now moving to the front end, the grill frame top plate has the bolts molded in the wrong spots, they are in fact on the head light door covers area where they should be in fact on the top area above the tip of the grill. On the real chargers of the 2nd gen, the firewall has a few bends in it. The revell one has one bend. The whole wall is straight up and down. On the real ones there is a lot of ribbon and bends. The wheel wells support area for the upper a-arms is straight where as on the real ones they tilt inwards at the rear and outwards at the front. The wheel hubs on the model needs to be moved upwards and shorten as the front wheels sticks to far unlike the rear. The rad support is straight across where as the real ones has a lot of indention's in front on the sides of the radiator.

Besides that stuff and the kit having a doubled floor, it's a good kit.

Besides, I have always wondered what a model of a charger would look like if a model company would have made a more correct looking one with all the details from a real 2nd gen one put into a scale version one.

I have access to a 1/1 '69 Charger and a lot of photos from it as ref as well an measurements to.

 

Oh, I've never paid much attention. I just left the kit as is, it looked nice on my shelf, so I never corrected everything.



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Posted 17 October 2014 - 07:32 AM

I have access to a 1/1 '69 Charger and a lot of photos from it as ref as well an measurements to.

 

I wish I still had my full scale AAR 'cuda sitting out in the driveway to use as reference!

 

You're putting in a lot of work, I'm anxious to see what it looks like when you're finished.



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Posted 19 October 2014 - 10:24 PM

 
Oh, I've never paid much attention. I just left the kit as is, it looked nice on my shelf, so I never corrected everything.


There is no problem with that. I have around 10 Revell Chargers around the house on shelf's too. They do look great.. I mean the kit is a great kit to assemble a nice looking charger model for on a shelf.

But now if a person that knows there 2nd gen chargers looks closer they probably notice a lot of stuff incorrect. LOL

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Posted 19 October 2014 - 10:30 PM

 
I wish I still had my full scale AAR 'cuda sitting out in the driveway to use as reference!
 
You're putting in a lot of work, I'm anxious to see what it looks like when you're finished.


If you or others have photos of the cars you have or had an would like to share a photo or two in my thread please feel free. I would love to see them as I'm a muscle car person myself an love them.

I am putting a lot of work into this project. I think when it's done, it will look great.

Matter of fact here is an update of the firewall. I still have work to do on it before it's finish. I'm still in the shape stage. I still have to do the floor pan piece and curve it back under. This side which is the driver side has more bends then what the pass side did.
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Posted 28 October 2014 - 11:44 AM

Okay, I been working at trying to get this firewall done. I'm not sure what options came with the cars back then but I have quite a few ref photos of firewalls that I been using for detail ref. I still have some stuff to shape yet and to work on yet. 10405642_10205434905616350_712302513547910347093_10205434907616400_5798846999880541566_10205434908136413_824877829017008 The front clip off 10665287_10205434910656476_471801675794010676222_10205434911816505_3064882196297

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Posted 28 October 2014 - 11:47 AM

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Posted 28 October 2014 - 04:03 PM

Love the attention to detail . Keep up the great work.



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Posted 19 November 2014 - 06:09 PM

Well with winter setting in now around here. I'm more on projects now. I been working at this one too. I'm working on the firewall and front chassis area now. From when these photos was taken, the front chassis frame has been modified and also scribe out of the floor pan piece and remove from the floor pan and firewall. I still have to clean the openings up and fill them with plastic and correct the front rails as well yet. The brass parts making is coming up soon. 10700155_10205593755547499_3500840142927 The Dash 10409259_10205593756387520_25592113291581391989_10205593758747579_3854354996501810348544_10205593768667827_5248977214941 Now, since I'm working on my son project as well.. I just had to do a mock up like with the chassis in the amt/mpc shell. 1417583_10205593777708053_49856137728621

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Posted 19 November 2014 - 06:15 PM

Not a bad fit at all.. 10392407_10205593778188065_490949066210310001428_10205593778668077_551234585325910394816_10205593778788080_13143987924321512280_10205593780428121_81271691152322 Strange thing is, this is not even the shell for the project and yet it all comes together nicely! 10805807_10205593787108288_6038579510826 That's all for this update, I get the other photos uploaded in the next few days and post them. Feedback is welcome towards the project. I hope you all enjoyed this small update.

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Posted 19 November 2014 - 06:16 PM

Love the attention to detail . Keep up the great work.



Thank you!