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Stacey David's Rat Roaster Revisited - 3-31 Done! Final Photos and Under Glass Tomorrow


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#1 Bernard Kron

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 03:23 PM

Revell has finally given us a new tool Deuce Roadster in the form of the Stacy David Rat Roaster. Just in time, too, as the old highboy roadster kit has become quite scarce. Recently, when I was at the NNL West there were absolutely none of the old kit to be found! So the Rat Roaster is what we will have going forward.
 
I must admit to mixed feelings about this kit. The 1:1 is highly stylized, a very contemporary vision of a 60s style 32 Ford highboy roadster. Definitely one mans taste, with its massive exhausts and intake trumpets, the B&M blower, the polished bare metal chrome molding along the bodyline, and the oval ports atop the hood. Unfortunately, many of these details are not to my taste, and some, like the hood top ports, are not easily undone without either extensive bodywork or reaching into the parts box. The interior, too, is aggressively done and very much in the modern style. But it is more to my taste than some of the other details. So I decided I would do a version of the Rat Roaster, keeping the details that I like and changing the details that I dont like. This isnt a backdating of the car, but rather a revisiting of the basic style of the 1:1, toning down some of the details, and emphasizing some of the others.
 
To start with I was surprised to see that the holes in the interior were missing from the kit. At first I thought Revell had wimped out by leaving the holes filled and including decals to indicate the dark areas on the original car. But more close examination of the 1:1 indicates that these holes are not holes at all, but indentations which are then filled with padded upholstery material. In my minds eye I wanted holes. So I drilled out all the holes so they are now holes, period.
 
My vision of the interior was more along the lines of a bare metal look with just a smattering of upholstery. So I decided on finishing it out in Testors Aluminum Plate Metalizer with the black diamond pattern panels of the 1:1. To emphasize this look I have replaced the kit seats with drilled out resin items from ThePartsBox.com, again finished in Aluminum Plate.
 
One of the most successful details of the 1:1, something which Revell has translated quite well in kit form, are the wheels and tires. To give the wheels a bit more realism I painted out the centers in Metalizer Stainless Steel to mimic the finish on the 1:1.
 
These details have set the tone of the overall look. Ill keep as much of the rest of the car as I can, sticking with the kit Small Block Chevy, but changing the hood to a more stock appearing one. The blower is a problem for me, lacking definition and personality, so Im looking into alternate carburetion and/or blower setups (GMC 671, a brace of 97s, injection? not decided yet). The exhausts are problematic too. Do I keep them to emphasize the link with the 1:1, do I refinish them to tone down the kit chrome, do I substitute block huggers for them and go with full side panels, or do I build out a set of Limefires (which I have started on)? Again Im not sure.
 
Meanwhile, Ive settled on a color. At first I considered a deep red metallic, but it didnt go all that well with the strong silver and black interior. Then I considered a black car, but I decided it would just be too black all over. So Ive gone with a rich, deep blue metallic, Duplicolor Nightshadow Pearl, applied over white primer and a silver metallic base for a candy effect. Below is a color check I did.
 
I think the overall look will be far more conservative than the 1:1, but Im trying to avoid backdating this car too much, partially because Im planning a straight-up traditional highboy for later this year, complete with buggy spring rear end, juice brakes, either flathead or early OHV power, tuck and roll interior, etc. That car will almost certainly be done in black, another reason I wanted to avoid black for this one.
 
As usual, this build is somewhat of an improvisation, so well see where it takes me. In the meantime
 
Thanx for loookin,
B.
 
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Edited by Bernard Kron, 31 March 2013 - 05:12 PM.


#2 Custom Mike

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 06:43 PM

Great start Bernard, that color is sweet too, I've gotta get some of it, do you have the number to go along with the name? Drilling out the interior panels is a nice touch, and the old bomber style seats should look right at home along side those panels!



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Posted 03 March 2013 - 05:31 AM

You will do justice to this 32....



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Posted 03 March 2013 - 05:44 AM

I like it so far Bernard, keep us posted



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Posted 03 March 2013 - 01:24 PM

Looking good so far. I always especailly enjoy reading your commentary, and how much thought you put into your builds.



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Posted 04 March 2013 - 04:56 AM

Looking good so far. I always especailly enjoy reading your commentary, and how much thought you put into your builds.

 

Bill just said what I was going to. I have always enjoyed about the style of your builds, too. I'm a Hot Rod guy too and really like them, but somehow I build them only a few in smaller scale. Maybe it would be a time to fix that problem... Also when I like Old School stuff, it's pretty obvious that I enjoy following these threads! I like what you did for the interior and wheels. They look Great! Color choice is perfect also. I'm tuned in for more.



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Posted 04 March 2013 - 09:02 AM

Watching! :D



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Posted 04 March 2013 - 09:10 AM

looking great !!!! love the seats !



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Posted 04 March 2013 - 09:13 AM

Excellent start Bernard, great color, love the seats......



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Posted 05 March 2013 - 07:50 AM

Nice start!  Revell's nineties '32 highboy appears on eBay frequently, and often at the right price.  They're out there.



#11 Bernard Kron

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 07:24 PM

I’ve competed all the subassemblies and paint with the exception of the motor. It’s all pretty much out of the box with some detail changes to reflect the difference between my vision of this car and the 1:1. A good example of this is the front axle. The Rat Roaster’s kit front axle is different that an all the other Revell Deuces, even though it looks virtually identical. For the Rat Roaster Revell removed the square shoulders on the center mounting tab of the axle and also cut down the two locating tabs at the ends of the spring. The result is an axle that sits lower than the other ones. It is, in effect, the “Tim Boyd drop”. But the front tires on the Rat Roaster are about .06” taller than the front tires that come on the old Goodguys Highboy, almost exactly the amount of height they took out of the front axle. So, despite the modification, the stance of the Rat Roaster is essentially unchanged from the Goodguys. Here are some pictures showing the differences:

 

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I like my Deuces with more rake than the Revell kits offer, so I generally will not only remove the corners off the tabs, as originally suggested many moons ago by Tim Boyd, but I will also shave down the spring so that there are only one or two leaves left. That’s what I did in this case. Below are some pictures showing the resulting stance, as well as the color of the paint and the contrast between the interior and the bodywork. I also decided to finish the firewall in Duplicolor Silver, the undercoat I used on the rest of the bodywork. It echoes the bare metal look of the interior.

 

I won’t be running fenders on this car, unlike the 1:1. I want a simple, classic look to this street rod with a minimum of ornamentation. This is essentially the goal of my “revisit”; between the rich dark blue paint, the stock hood, the raked stance and the lack of fenders, this will be a far more severe and conservative looking car than the Rat Roaster. I have pretty much decided to swap out the blower for a GMC 671 and, assuming the fabrication comes off successfully, some Limefire style side exhausts. The motor remains the most elaborate work left to do. I hope to have this project done within the next couple of weeks.

 

Thanx for lookin’,
B.

 

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 04:20 AM

Wow! Nice stance! Hot rod at it's max exprecion!



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Posted 09 March 2013 - 04:41 AM

Very nice.



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Posted 09 March 2013 - 08:41 AM

That is pretty dang nice Bernard! I dig the color, and what you did with the wheels.



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Posted 09 March 2013 - 11:08 PM

nice job !! great stance

i even removed all the springs on that axle on my last 2 builds and made like a new leaf spring  , made the axle fall in the chassis and fitted the new leaf springs ..

but then the schocks need new plates and some filing to be fitted again :lol:



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Posted 10 March 2013 - 12:08 AM

Aside from a nice build, you definitely have a talent for presentation. Nice write-up & photography!

BTW: Wheels + body color = Perfect!

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 01:18 AM

Coming along nicely, thanks for the comparo too!



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Posted 10 March 2013 - 02:22 AM

I love your commentary like many have said and also your pictures look dreamy with the fogged background.  Would you mind sharing your photo technique? I love the stance in the photos and the paint looks perfect.  



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Posted 29 March 2013 - 02:57 PM

Thanks everyone!

 

Just a quick update to show that this project is still alive (I got sidetracked building a LoBoy Deuce Roadster – sort of the exact opposite of this car…). As I mentioned earlier, I thought I’d go with Limefire headers instead of the kit sidepipes, until I remembered that the frame rails are notched to accept the exhaust pipes where they exit the underside of the car and join up with side pipes. For some reason I imagined they were mounting points for the hairpins! So…having already painted and assembled the chassis, I have had to stick with the kit headers. Which brings me to the motor. The 1:1 Rat Roaster has quite a few style elements from sprint cars, for example the front tires, wheels, exhausts, and even the exaggerated air filter stacks if you think they quote sprint-style conical air filters. But the motor on the kit version Rat Roaster disappoints me. To my eye the carbs and blower just look wimpy. At first I considered switching to an old school GMC blower. But then I had the idea to extend the sprint car metaphor to the top side of the motor. So I ordered a set of sprint car style injectors with big K&N conical filters from TJ’s Custom Castings. The picture below shows the result.

 

I’m on the home stretch now, basically just detailing and final assembly. I hope to have this project done within the next week or so..

 

Thanx for lookin’,
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Posted 29 March 2013 - 03:00 PM

I'm liken it, Bernard