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#1 mnwildpunk

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 04:41 PM

I'm not sure if this is the correct place for this but here goes. Does anybody make a 21 window vw bus? I should rephrase that I found one at my LHS made by a company I'd never heard of and they wanted $85 bucks for it. I just can't afford that

#2 Craig Irwin

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 04:49 PM

Yes, look for a Revell boxed one, still not cheap but no where near $85. Very quickly found one on ebay for $26.99 just now.



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Posted 09 March 2013 - 05:04 PM

Unfortunately, nobody currently produces a kit of the 21-window; the Revell and Hasegawa kits are 23-window Buses. Revell made one back in the 1960s, based on their original 1950s-issue 23-window, and it was later modified and reissued as the 'Rubber Duck' and then 'California Roller' custom panel Buses. To show the difference between the 21 and 23, I did a little Googling.

 

21-window(model years 1964-67):

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23 window (model years 1950-1963):

 

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The 23w shown is actually a pre-'55 'Barndoor" Bus, but the narrower rear hatch and corner windows are pretty much the same all the way through 1963. To properly count the windows on a deluxe Microbus, the front doors(which contain 3 pieces of glass) are considered 1 each; there were 13, 15, 21 and 23-window varieties.



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Posted 09 March 2013 - 05:34 PM

Learn something new everyday



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Posted 09 March 2013 - 10:42 PM

Looks like you can convert the Revell 'Flat-Pack" new tool Samba into a 21 Window

version by filling those rear corner windows.

 

Hasegawa did the Smabi & Combi Cargo version with 1 piece bodies, butt hose kits are Curbside.

No engine. And Yes, They do get Expensive!!

I think new they started at almost $30.oo and now are double to triple that



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Posted 10 March 2013 - 02:55 AM

The newer Revell kit is far better (it has interior panels and details) and should be easy to find as it's only a few years old. It has a mufti-piece body but builds up easily with the seams at the 1:1 panel seams. Thee detail far out weighs the Hasegawa kit.

 

The Hasegawa kit is older but still a good one. The problem as I see it is they are charging outrageous prices for what is an old, reissued kit and no longer worth the money.

 

Here's a link to a build I'm still on of the Hasegawa 23 window.


Edited by Foxer, 10 March 2013 - 02:56 AM.


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Posted 10 March 2013 - 11:09 AM

Thanks guys I'll start looking for the Revell kit

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 02:17 PM

Looks like you can convert the Revell 'Flat-Pack" new tool Samba into a 21 Window

version by filling those rear corner windows.

 

 

 

Not exactly, as the pre-'64 had a much narrower rear window & hatch than the later models.....I would graft the rear corners and hatch section from the Hasegawa '67 panel into a 23-window body to do it 'right.'

 

I agree the Hasegawa kits have gone through the roof, but the other Revell Microbus(not the 'flat pack' one) is the same kit in their box; I'll also assume their soon-to-be-released panel is also a repackaged Hasegawa as well. Here's the Revell kit that is all Hasegawa inside - for about half the price:

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 02:19 PM

I Googled a couple more pics to help illustrate the rear hatch differences....using a Barndoor in my first reply was a bad choice, as an opening rear hatch was a dealer-installed option.

 

Here's a pre-64 rear hatch, which is the same width as the engine lid:

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And a '64-up version; the engine lid width did not change:

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 02:20 PM

 

Not exactly, as the pre-'64 had a much narrower rear window & hatch than the later models.....I would graft the rear corners and hatch section from the Hasegawa '67 panel into a 23-window body to do it 'right.'

 

I agree the Hasegawa kits have gone through the roof, but the other Revell Microbus(not the 'flat pack' one) is the same kit in their box; I'll also assume their soon-to-be-released panel is also a repackaged Hasegawa as well. Here's the Revell kit that is all Hasegawa inside - for about half the price:

 

From what I've read, the upcoming panel is based on the recent RoG Samba kit, not the Hasegawa tooling...



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Posted 11 March 2013 - 01:16 AM

Theres a cool one on ebay someone made a limo out of on ebay heres a pic of it

Edited by chevyfever2009, 11 March 2013 - 01:17 AM.


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Posted 11 March 2013 - 01:20 AM

I have both the new Revell kit and the Hasagawa one in my collection of 'yet-to-be built' models. They're both good kits, but the Revell has more detail + engine & opening doors, so this is the one that I will probably end up building (... someday).



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Posted 11 March 2013 - 01:35 AM

or ... I did this making the rear window smaller for a '56. I just did it by eye from photos.

 

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