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#21 Chillyb1

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 01:58 PM

I build reasonably cleanly and my overall goal is always in-scale appearance. To that end, I almost always replace kit wipers with photoetch ones. 



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Posted 14 March 2013 - 02:14 PM

For me it's detailing the panel lines (deepening them only. absolutely no black wash!) and adding the missing lines. It always bugs me to see a model with no lines between the bottom of the fenders and the rocker panels. Same for between the cowl and fenders.

 

Stance is hands down first for me. A close second is the mandatory smooth paint tied with excellent bmf. From there, it all depends on the particular model.

 

One thing I try to specify about paint -- smooth does not automatically mean uber-shiny. It just needs to be smooth, as in lacking orange peel (and of course dirt or fingerprints, but that should be obvious :D

 

Cars just aren't that shiny. I know I'm in the minority, but there's a lot to be said for scale sheen.

 

I totally agree! A model shouldn't have more paint on it than a real car. They always have either no details (like scripts/emblems marker lights etc.) on the body or if they do, they're completely buried under the paint and clear. The panel lines are either full of paint and clear or have pools of paint clear on either side of them. It doesn't take six coats of paint and ten coats of clear to get a quality paint job with a deep shine. Or least it doesn't for some people.



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Posted 14 March 2013 - 02:23 PM

for it's all about stance and engine compartment detailing.



#24 Hollywood Jim

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 02:27 PM

Rust, dirt and grime.

 

Thank you!!! I love this comment because reading all the others was beginning to honk me off, mainly because I can never achieve all those things.  It almost makes me not want to show any of my models, after all, aren't they really just for fun?  Or is this really serious business to some of you?

 

You bring up a really good point.  First have fun, everything else should be in second place. 

Have you ever built a really good looking model that you hated building?

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#25 Scott Colmer

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 02:38 PM

For my models, I like unique design and clean detail. But I know all that is lost if the paint is not up to par.

 

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 02:40 PM

@ Hollywood Jim, I really hated doing the 32 Ford "Chromzilla"  because of all the chrome parts that had to be working with and not messing them up. It's not like working with a painted part that later you can tuch up or add paint to a spot and clear coat to cover up the epoxy spots or any thing. That thing was the most nerv wrecking car I have ever done.



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Posted 14 March 2013 - 02:43 PM

......

Believable engineering is probably what I obsess about the most.

 

 

Research.

 

i'm going with these ones.

 

no matter how good a build looks, if i can't picture a driver fitting behind the steering wheel, all bets are off.



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Posted 14 March 2013 - 02:43 PM

I would have to say my push is paint, and clean windows! They have to be clean and not have a mark on them or fogged up. Then I like the little details that is on normal 1 off cars on making some thing out of nothing that the kit or aftermarket has to offer. Trying to push some thing is what I like to see on peoples models and yes some times it's been done before but some one will have a better way of doing it or making it work better.



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Posted 14 March 2013 - 02:44 PM

speaking of chrome...

 

the biggest IRK i have with models has to do with how model manufacturers will attach chrome pieces to a parts tree.  99% of the time you have no choice but to cut the part off the chrome tree and it removes the chrome from that one spot, which in turn will stick out like a sore thumb if left alone.

 

it'd be nice if they attach them to the sprue in more hidden areas.

 

so i guess another thing i like to do with models, esecially regarding chrome, is stripping it completely and using alclad chrome - it looks more realistic (scale) than kit chrome IMO.



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Posted 14 March 2013 - 03:10 PM

clean clear glass , I see many awesome builds hampered with marred glass



#31 Swamp Dog

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 03:37 PM

my obsession will probably always be a perfect paint job.  or at least try to obtain that perfect paint job.

i agree 100%..



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Posted 14 March 2013 - 03:43 PM

Research.

 

Absolutely B)



#33 hooterville75

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 10:11 PM

For example I was judging at a show last weekend and this guy had a decent nova but didn't glue the wheels on, needless to say he didn't place.

 

Why should that penalize a person of placing ?  Every Nascar kit Ive built say right in the instructions not to glue the wheels on.  They snap directly onto the axle.  I dont know if street cars are like this as Ive only ever built one.  If the instructions of a kit call not to glue the wheels on why should that penalize a person from placing points at a show ?  (Taking notes from this thread for future contests I may enter any of my builds in).  Thanks in advance for your detailed answer.  Much appreciated.



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Posted 14 March 2013 - 11:28 PM

I guess nice paint comes first but when they stop making BMF I'll stop making models (or use the kitchen foil method).



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Posted 15 March 2013 - 02:12 AM

Okay looking back at post 17 I was a little harsh.  I thought I would get plenty of hate mail.  I strive for the perfect model just like a lot of you guys but, when it comes to judging someone else's work, not for me.  When anyone mentions BMF I become irritated, Having completed only one full model with BMF ever, thinking finally I'm happy with it, next morning, guess what?  Not that good.  I like to see it perfect and I only know one guy that can do that.  He doesn't  like to do it any more he told me, it's been six years.   Now I will stand behind my comment, Isn't it suppose to be fun?  Number one, have fun, and don't always expect to win the big trophy.  I've seen guys walk away from a contest angry and dejected because they didn't win, that's obsessive!  .........Maybe a little off the subject...........The original question:  

#1 thing that brings that extra something out of your model  - The perfect paint job.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 02:24 AM

For me it's being able to see the fine details, if there's no detail moulded underneath, inside or you can't see it, then to me, it's just a paintjob on four plastic wheels. On a different note; my least favorite is decals.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 03:05 AM

IMO the number one thing is COLOR! Does it grab you attention? (ask you local LEO about red cars) Is it different? How many red 69 Camaro's, 32 Deuce's. and Italian sports cars does the world really need? Next would be how it is finished. Is the paint smooth? To thick? Do the details show through? does the foil or detail painting look right? Do the details look realistic? And here is another for stance (Ace hit the nail on the head)... RM's newer Shelby Cobra Mustangs make me cringe because the ride height and rolling stock jack up what is essentially a great kit. Those are the things from a glance that draw someone in I think. All the photo etched doo dads in the world are not going to fix poor workmanship and details that are out of fidelity.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 04:02 AM

Paint Job, Overall detailing (Includes for example Black Washing the grille, BMF, engine detail etc) and Overall parts fit. I think those are what I see as the most important things.



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Posted 15 March 2013 - 04:39 AM

I don't do contests, so all I have to do is please me . And I go more for the overall look. So stance is important to me to accruately replicate the 1/1 I'm trying to recreate for my shelf. I usually stay with box stock or pretty close to it. I MIGHT do ignition wiring and maybe some fuel lines but thats about the extent of my detailing list. But i'll work for hours trying to get a funnycar body to sit down over the ft tires, otherwise they just don't 'LOOK ' right.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 02:56 PM

Workmanship. I strive for this with every model. Starting with the basics moving all the way to the end with that final touch.

 

Another thing about workmanship is I don't have to like the subject to be able to appreciate what went into it.