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Porsche 914/6 GT: Casting Begun 6/18/14


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#1 afx

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 02:09 PM

Confession, I am a Porsche fanatic.  I have always hoped that Fujimi, or any kit manufacturer would release a detailed  Porsche 914 kit.  I would even be happy if Revel would re-issue ther simplified kit.  Well I guess I am tired of waiting so what I am attempting to do is kit bash Revell's kit with Fujimi's Enthusiast Porsche 911 kit to build the best 914/6 I can.  I would like to build the race car with the wheel well flairs but body mods have never been my strength so well see.  I am more of a chassis/engine kind of guy so that is where I am going to start.  Here is the Revell kit I am starting with. 


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Posted 20 March 2013 - 02:11 PM

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 02:16 PM

I had an old 911 built-up lying around so it will donate the rear frame section.

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 02:18 PM

After a little surgey I was able to attach it to the 914's very simple floor pan.

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 02:24 PM

A little more surgery and we have the rear suspension mocked-up.  The ride hight is way to high at this point but we will adjust that later as well as clean-up all the protruding pins and rods.

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 02:50 PM

Nice project, good looking work. I'm a Porsche guy too...love all the aircooleds and have a couple. I'm curious as to why you decided to modify the rear of the chassis though, as the 1:1 car uses the same rear structure and banana-arm / coil-spring layout as the 4 cylinder cars.



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Posted 20 March 2013 - 02:58 PM

Good idea, cool project.



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Posted 20 March 2013 - 03:00 PM

cool build , i use to own a 914/6



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Posted 20 March 2013 - 03:52 PM

Nice to see a Porsche getting built here. I'd love to see the fender flares appear, but I do realize what work it might entail.



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Posted 20 March 2013 - 04:16 PM

Nice to see the old 914 being built up. The 916 fender mods shouldn't be too difficult....you should go for it! I would LOVE to see this car done in 1/12 scale............matt



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Posted 20 March 2013 - 04:34 PM

I've always had a thing for the 914 !

Can't wait to see how yours is going to turn out !

 

Scariest ride I've ever been in was a 1970 914 with a 327 / 4-speed (the latter from a 930 or something) . Just plain nuts ! Ran like a striped ape and handelled like it was on rails ! Had to pull me britches from  my posterior after the ride ended !



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Posted 20 March 2013 - 06:07 PM

seems to me i have seen a 1/24 914/6 resin body somewhere...

 

nice project, this should be fun. i would like to put a quad cam in one myself, or a twin turbo rotary.



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Posted 21 March 2013 - 02:30 AM

Nice project, good looking work. I'm a Porsche guy too...love all the aircooleds and have a couple. I'm curious as to why you decided to modify the rear of the chassis though, as the 1:1 car uses the same rear structure and banana-arm / coil-spring layout as the 4 cylinder cars.

Thanks Bill.  I understand this modification will not be totally faithful to the 1:1 car.  Based on my research I thought the 911 rear clip would give a fairly accurate representaton of the the 1:1 car and allow me to build a more detailed model.  The Revell kit's floor pan has no frame structure at all and I thought the kit's rear trailing arms where lacking.  I plan to add a coil spring in lieu of the shock I show mocked-up.  Frankly I didn't even look at the Fujimi's 356 kit suspension to see if it may be more accurate.

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 02:37 AM

seems to me i have seen a 1/24 914/6 resin body somewhere...

 

nice project, this should be fun. i would like to put a quad cam in one myself, or a twin turbo rotary.

Thanks.  The only 914/6 resin kit that I am aware of was made by Volkl.  I have been looking for one for years and have not found one.  If anyone has one I would be very interested in it.

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 02:58 AM

Very interesting, and nice going so far on a kit that's difficult to make look right.

 

The Fujimi 356 wouldn't help you, I'm afraid, as the real 356 uses torsion bars and straight trailing arms, much like a VW Beetle. The torsion bars are transversely-mounted, like the 911, ahead of the transaxle for the rear-engined application, and like the 911 torsion-bar rear suspension, won't work on a mid-engined car.

 

It is rather a shame that the Revell 914 rear structure is so poorly done, as you mention, though the rear suspension geometry is fairly close to accurate (from the standpoint of the control arm pivot and top coil-over mounts). I just looked at my own 914 kit and had forgotten how bad the rear structure is, and that I was disappointed seeing the poorly-represented underside when it came in. It definitely heeds an upgrade like you're doing..

 

I'm dismantling 2 rusty 914s here, and also have a '74 911 up on stands at the moment, so if you need any photos of the 1:1s for specific reference, just ask.


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Posted 21 March 2013 - 03:46 AM

Excellent...I had the pleasure of owning a  '74 914 1.8 back in the late 70's

took it to Garretson Enterprizes in Mt. View, CA and they did a number on it...

replaced Fuel Injection with a couple of Webers, low flow exhaust, massive sway bars and adjustable Koni's w/Pirelli CN36's on all four corners.

Autocrossed the heck outa this thing, what a blast!

built both the Revell 914-6 and 914 kits

lookin' forward to see this one come together

thanx 



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Posted 21 March 2013 - 08:00 AM

Very interesting, and nice going so far on a kit that's difficult to make look right.

 

The Fujimi 356 wouldn't help you, I'm afraid, as the real 356 uses torsion bars and straight trailing arms, much like a VW Beetle. The torsion bars are transversely-mounted, like the 911, ahead of the transaxle for the rear-engined application, and like the 911 torsion-bar rear suspension, won't work on a mid-engined car.

 

It is rather a shame that the Revell 914 rear structure is so poorly done, as you mention, though the rear suspension geometry is fairly close to accurate (from the standpoint of the control arm pivot and top coil-over mounts). I just looked at my own 914 kit and had forgotten how bad the rear structure is, and that I was disappointed seeing the poorly-represented underside when it came in. It definitely heeds an upgrade like you're doing..

 

I'm dismantling 2 rusty 914s here, and also have a '74 911 up on stands at the moment, so if you need any photos of the 1:1s for specific reference, just ask.

Thanks Bill, I may take you up on some reference photos later on.  I think I have what I need at the moment.  Here's some photos of a 911ST I did awhile back.

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 08:07 AM

Excellent...I had the pleasure of owning a  '74 914 1.8 back in the late 70's

took it to Garretson Enterprizes in Mt. View, CA and they did a number on it...

replaced Fuel Injection with a couple of Webers, low flow exhaust, massive sway bars and adjustable Koni's w/Pirelli CN36's on all four corners.

Autocrossed the heck outa this thing, what a blast!

built both the Revell 914-6 and 914 kits

lookin' forward to see this one come together

thanx 

Thanks Tony, sounds like a nice car.  I really liked your Tony Adamowicz F5000 build-very nice.



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Posted 21 March 2013 - 08:36 AM

I will be watching this closely my friend, whenever possible, bring it to the meetings!!!



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Posted 21 March 2013 - 08:41 AM

Thanks Tony, sounds like a nice car.  I really liked your Tony Adamowicz F5000 build-very nice.

thanx, it was a fun-build...went uncommonly smooth!  :rolleyes: