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#1 hooknladderno1

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 04:31 PM

Hey Guys,

This is a project that has taken a few turns along it's journey.  This was the inspiration for this build.

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Since at the time I began this rig, no Freightliner FL Series cab was available( I have since bought the Plaskit version, but that is for another project).  It started out with a Mack R style cab, but it looked a little dated.  I checked my "stash", and found a Plaskit Mack RD resin hood.  It was posed with an R cab for a mockup

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The cab was stripped, hood glued, and painted:

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The dry side tanker body was scratchbuilt.  After the pump panel was roughed out, these photos were taken:

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After investing so much time in the tanker body, I realized, that it was too narrow.  I couldn't bring myself to cut it up, so I set the project aside for a while.  A fellow modeler built a great International elliptical tanker model that I really admired.  He shared his construction techniques and the following advice: "Sometimes a project comes out looking totally different from how we imagined it".  How true!  This is when I made some major changes...


Edited by hooknladderno1, 20 March 2013 - 04:53 PM.


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Posted 20 March 2013 - 04:48 PM

I took a new frame and wheels, along with a New Bright 1/32 elliptical tank.

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Over time, the project evolved to this:

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 Originally, the rear of the body was flat.  I thought it needed a small extension, so I added an angular piece to the outside panel on each side.

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Still, the pump panel engineering was a challenge...  Again, the project was put aside.  Then, we moved and the rig was put in storage.  Until now :D   While on vacation, This project was brought home.  Work began on roughing out the pump panel.  Here is where it sits tonight. 

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As I have a busy week coming up, I don't expect any progress until next weekend.  Thanks for looking!

 

 

David


Edited by hooknladderno1, 26 July 2014 - 09:38 AM.


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Posted 20 March 2013 - 05:01 PM

Another interesting twist in this story is that I eventually did make a few changes to the "dry side" tanker body.  I DID actually cut it in half down the middle.  I also placed it behind a scratchbuilt Pierce Lance cab that I had built.  It is a little oversized as is the tanker body, that has also been modified. 

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As for the above tanker body, I believe I have found a solution:

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The cab is from "Models by Dave".  It's raised roof makes the transition to the high hosebed of the tanker not look so out of proportion...

 

 

David


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Posted 20 March 2013 - 06:44 PM

you have excellent scratch building skills,by looking at all your pictures, what ever way you go it's going to look great!



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Posted 26 July 2014 - 09:34 AM

Another update.  I thought that the pump panel could use a crosslay.  So, I began trimming...

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I also was not happy with the rear of the tanker body.  While looking at reference photos from similar tankers of the period, I noticed that the angular rears often featured full compartments.  So, I fabricated full rear compartments:

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Posted 27 July 2014 - 05:55 AM

It looks great. I dont know much about fire apparatus, but its still a truck and I can appreciate the scratchwork. Ill be following this.

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Posted 27 July 2014 - 08:14 AM

Beautiful work of scracht built



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Posted 27 July 2014 - 05:22 PM

Glad I wasn't on the truck committee Dave! So many changes!! I think it was a wise choice for the eliptical tank. It looks more like it belongs there. Can I make a suggestion for your pump panel? Try cutting a section of aluminum tubing and fit it into a hole that is sized for it on the panel. Let it stick out just a bit. It will look like a gage bezel. If you have some of those hot rod gage clusters cut one out and insert it into the aluminum tubing. Coat it will a bit of Clear and you have a neat gage.
I've also taken photos of actual pump panels, printed out the photos and then punched out the gage face to put inside a bezel. Looks realistic. Naturally you have to size the photo so that the gage face is the right size.

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Posted 27 October 2014 - 03:59 PM

Hey Guys - Work continues!  A little update.  Attempted to scratch build an extended front bumper without much success.  Hoping someone can find one in their spares box that they might be able to donate...(Please, please, please)  I also made a radiator guard.  I began putting diamond plate on the compartment tops, mocked up the hydraulic port-a-tank mechanisms and holder. The tank holder and "ladder board" will most likely be remade. Still kicking around ideas for the pump panel...  Lots more to do!  Thanks for looking!

 

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Posted 09 November 2014 - 10:50 AM

Many thanks to Scale Trucker who helped me out with the Paystar front bumper!  Now to decide which upright components of the bumper will stay, and which will be removed... I fabbed up a piece of diamond plate to span the gap from the front of the truck to the inside of the bumper. I would like to either retain the outer uprights and/or convert them into vertical corner markers(not sure what the correct term for them is) on the front bumper. I also fabbed up a prototypical radiator guard for the front of most vocational Mack conventionals. Interested to hear your thoughts...  Thanks for looking!

 

 

David

 

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Note - Everything is just mocked up with Blue Tac for demo purposes.

 

 



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Posted 09 November 2014 - 11:39 AM

Wow a lot of changes, but it's looking really good. The Paystar bumper is a great addition.


You know what might look neat is a bumper turret. You've got plenty of room up front now. A hose bin or short section of hardline is another popular option.

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Posted 10 November 2014 - 05:06 AM

Dave: My two cents. Remove the front radiator guard and the railing on top of the bumper. Use the treadplate on top of the bumper for your Fed. Q2B! The rig is classy in its own way and doesn't need a lot of stuff out front. For those vertical corner markers you were thinking about; use some thin chrome wire and just dip the top end in some clear red or clear green. Keep dipping until the paint builds up into a small rounded blob. Drill a hole in the corners of the bumper and insert the wire.
You are right! Lots of changes since the first go 'round.

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Posted 10 November 2014 - 03:14 PM

Dave, I concur with Charlie, remove the radiator guard and railing on top of the bumper, they just don't look good with the Mack's front end.  I have always been a fan of front suctions, and 4Guys does a great job of adding those to pumpers.  My personal favorite setup is Cobleskill NY's front mounted suction. 

 

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You can always add a rotoray to the grille if you want to add some bling that way.