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#21 Draggon

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 07:21 AM

$300 isnt that bad if it is something I really really want. Heck, I dropped a buck and a half on a built resin Hairy Canary A/FX last year because I saw it run at Fremont in 66, and the son of the guy who built the 1:1 built the model. It is the crown jewell in my collection. Now if we could get Jeff Allison's artwork printed. Think I should show this to Steve Scott. He wants a new tool Uncertain-T in styrere, but I think this is the only viable method.



#22 Aaronw

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 04:55 AM

This is where the rubber meets the road concerning 3D printing. It's o.k. for small lot printings of pieces, but for whole kits or even bodies, it gets really expensive. And, yes it will be less expensive in the near future but many of us will have aged out, if you catch the drift. The only way it may get affordable a lot sooner is, if many, I mean many people, purchase upper level machines and start making parts, and flowing the marketplace, will it become affordable. But those machines require a long term investment, and in these unreliable financial times who can, or would do this. I did once want to start up a company to do industrial model making prototyping, but I could not get start up financing, and, that was ten years ago. So in closing, don't hold your breath too long or you'll suffocate!!

 

Many plastic model makers (Jo-Han, Williams Brothers, Pyro) were side businesses of industrial injection plastic companies, no reason to believe 3d printing will be any different. Right now the material costs are high for a top end machine like this, but those costs will drop.

 

Imagine you are a professional model maker creating display pieces for business, showing off new widgets. Those people won't think twice about paying $1500-2000 for a 3d model of their new pesticide sprayer, starter motor, new building design for their chain of tire stores, new tractor etc. The time you save printing out these display models vs scratchbuilding them more than offsets the cost of the equipment (more time to take additional business, or more free time for yourself). Lets say you also happen to be a serious plastic model maker as a hobby. You buy the machine for your job, and turn out very limited run kits on the side as part of your hobby. That is where many of the plastic model companies started and is where this technology will likely move into our hobby. As it finds more use in business, the prices will drop. We've already seen the consumer level machines like Makerbot drop from many thousands of dollars to many hundreds of dollars easily putting them into the hands of the more hardcore model builders.

 

If the quality is there, $300 for a kit is not out of line for a top end resin kit of an exotic subject.



#23 Chuck Doan

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 06:51 AM

Considering the time it took to create the parts on the computer, the price seems like a bargain. It still may not be worth it to some, but it looks like a pretty good value for a low quantity custom kit. I wonder how they amortize the design time for something like this?

 

I imagine there will still be a lot of clean-up required to get a nice finish compared to injection molded parts. Very encouraging though!



#24 Jantrix

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 07:05 AM

How well does this accept paint. Does it stand up to our paint strippers?



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Posted 25 March 2013 - 04:47 PM

Where can I get one?



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Posted 25 March 2013 - 04:56 PM

I like that, for the last week i have been scratcbuilding NY Traffic lights for a street corner diorama, i did them quick, from bits of plastic and piping and didnt go down the route using a ruler etc, i only wanted one, and to be quick.  Im not making a walk/dont walk box for the metal pole, and it got me thinking, if i was to make some in 1/24th scale, correct dimensions etc, and be able to run some off.  Trouble is, from what i looked at, the printers at say £2000/$2500?? pounds for the home user, cant do that type of qulaity i need.   I sidewalk hydrants, metal round sheet covers, metal grates etc etc.  never made anything in resin before, its all new to me.

As others said, look how much computers were in the 80's, even the 90's and now so cheap and a 1000 times better.

I think ink price is only expensive, as they all stick together and it could be done many times cheaper.

 



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Posted 26 March 2013 - 12:20 AM

Agreed, 3D modeling is not the future some think it may be and of course will never replace injection molded kits or resin kits for that matter.

 

 

Yep!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 01:42 AM

I think one day we'll see 3D printing as a regular thing in our hobby.  I can't wait until that day, but I venture a guess its still 15 years out. When someone can print kits and sell them for 30 - 04 bucks a piece that's when it will take off.  

 

That is one wild looking car though.  I kinda like it. 



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Posted 27 April 2013 - 06:27 AM

At 255$ im not complaining once i pay my credit card ill be looking to get it
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Posted 27 April 2013 - 07:05 AM

Now , it is high dollar for one of these . Time will drive the costs down . The whole process and initial costs will drop .

    The Printer Ink people are perpetrating what used to be called "Price Fixing" IMHO . IMHO the Persons in power let them get away with this Legal Gouging have no Conscience or Morals ..  Yet , we flock like Lemmings and these people laugh at us like Emron Employees . 

   This is a wowser for sure . It is just beyond my Financial Limits . Thanx ..



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Posted 27 April 2013 - 07:47 AM

make a 70 Cuda or a accurate 58 Plymouth and then id spend the long buck



#32 Elliot949

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Posted 29 April 2013 - 02:00 AM

I have spent close to 200.00 for a Resin 83 Dodge Mirada kit that I wanted and it wasn't as nice of looking casting as this printed model... I would spend the 300.00 for a model that I was interested in... This just isn't that model but it is pretty cool...



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Posted 10 May 2013 - 11:41 PM

This technology raises some interesting questions. Will the major producers switch over to 3d printing to produce their kits ?

If the technology becomes affordable enough for everyone to be able own a 3d printer, will there even be a modelling industry left ?

The last and most important question relates to whether the skill level of modellers will drop if they are designing and creating their models using these printers and not the old fashioned way, with tools and their bare hands ?

So many questions so few answers !



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Posted 13 May 2013 - 01:04 PM

I think this is very cool technology and have been following it since the '90s.  It's come a real long way in 20+ years; the quality/resolution vastly improved, a much broader range of material is available, etc.  In fact, we're using it at my business to print architectural models.  I don't see much promise in the near future of use of this method for mass production of kits, however, in as that it still takes a good amount of time (hours) to print one model (one of the reasons for the high cost), and of course cost of materials and maintenance of the equipment that can't match the economy of scale and efficiency enjoyed by a full-blown injection molding operation.  As mentioned though, 3-D printing is very useful for generating detailed and well-developed prototypes - we always referred to this process as "rapid prototyping" in the first place.  I believe Model Factory Hiro has been using this process to create masters for components in their kits for some time now.

 

That being said, I would imagine that more affordable, accessable and user-friendly 3-D printing should spawn a healthy market for...models.  Electronic models that the consumer could purchase on-line, download and forward to a service bureau that offers 3-D printing (which is becoming fairly common now).  There are restraints and tolerances that the e-modeler needs to be aware of, and good knowledge of traditional model assembly would have to play in to this as well.  But just think of it - you could offer models of varying complexity/simplicity with accessories that the modeler would have the choice of printing, or not printing, etc.  Need to satisfy a craving for an obscure subject?  Possibilities... 



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Posted 15 May 2013 - 10:15 PM

Ugly car but for something unique that I was after I might be willing to out lay the $300. Why can't a 3D print be made then molds taken from it & it be cast in resin, then the resin kits sold, would that not off set the cost of the prototype been printed?



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Posted 16 May 2013 - 07:25 AM

Ugly car but for something unique that I was after I might be willing to out lay the $300. Why can't a 3D print be made then molds taken from it & it be cast in resin, then the resin kits sold, would that not off set the cost of the prototype been printed?

this is the resin kit.



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Posted 16 May 2013 - 12:43 PM

If I could get an exact replica of my ' 68 Barracuda with all the details right, I'd buy TWO at $300 a pop....... :)