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#21 Custom Hearse

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 06:12 PM

,,,and your avatar IS more scary than Dirty Harry!

 

That's a picture of Harry Houdini...



#22 Harry P.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 06:22 PM

Which facility did you use Harry? 

 

Mitchell Blvd. in Schaumburg. Closest one to my house.



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Posted 29 March 2013 - 06:27 PM

Ah, ok!

#24 JM485

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 07:31 PM

Just be happy you don't live under the California regulations.  Not only do you have to pass the emissions test, but they will fail you if they see something unplugged or removed from the stock engine bay.  It amazes me to no end that you can have a clean running car that passes emissions, but can be failed only because some unnecessary part is removed.  Almost all of the issues I have had with my 1:1 truck have been because of smog related systems.  Not to mention that you can't modify a vehicle unless it is 1975 or older.   Believe me, I would love to be able to mod my truck and swap motors and parts like people used to be able to back in the day, but thanks to these regualations I can't touch anything!   


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Posted 29 March 2013 - 07:52 PM

Ok, so I'm a good citizen and decide to take my car in for its annual emissions test. I don't think they do automotive emissions testing everywhere in the country, but here in Illinois it's done in the Chicago and St. Louis metro areas (no other cities in Illinois, but that's a rant for another thread!). Your car has to pass the emissions test before you can renew your registration sticker every year.

 

I went in this morning around 10:30... I figured there wouldn't be a lot of cars and I could fly right through. Wrong! The lines were incredible! I figured I'd try again later when the lines weren't so long.

 

So I went back around 2 in the afternoon. Now the lines were even longer than before... literally out into the street! Needless to say, I went home and will try again another day.

 

But on the way home I couldn't help but think how stupid this is... here's a program set up by the do-gooders to help keep the air clean (no problem there!)... and what do you have? Dozens and dozens of cars sitting in blocks-long lines, engines running, wasting gas (getting basically zero mpg as they all sit in the line that moves at a glacial pace) and spewing emissions the whole time! In other words... the only reason there are dozens and dozens of cars gathered there, idling away and wasting gas and sending emissions into the air is because the do-gooders want to cut down on auto emissions!  :rolleyes:

 

Hellooooooo irony!  :lol:

Why did you wait until the end of the month. When the lines are going to be ridiculously long. What kind of car do you have Harry? In my state new cars dont have to be tested for the first 5 years after that its only every two years. & It was just announced this week,that sulphur is going to be eliminated from the gasoline blend reducing Emissions by 30% est and raising fuel price by 10 cents per gal.



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Posted 29 March 2013 - 08:01 PM

James, I hear ya!

 

I'm sure the Illinois program is more a scam than anything else. First of all, they only test cars in the Chicago and St. Louis metro areas. If you live in Rockford, or Springfield, or the Quad Cities. or Champaign-Urbana, or Peoria, or anywhere else except metro Chicago or St. Louis... no testing! You can drive the biggest polluter in the state, belching black smoke and carcinogens like an old locomotive... hey, no problemo! We're only worried about cars that pollute the air in Chicago and St. Louis. Anywhere else in Illinois, free pass!  :rolleyes:

 

And as if that wasn't ridiculous enough... if your car pollutes the air so much that it fails the test, you get another shot. And another. And if you fail the test three times... you're exempt!!! If your car spews so much pollution into the air that it fails the test three times, hey... you're good to go!

 

My tax dollars at work...  :rolleyes:

Here they only test Cars in the "Containment area" which is the Phoenix metropolitan area Primarily, and the Tucson sector. In Tucson the region is different "not located in a Valley" so they only check for three pollutants and Non intrusive test on OBD models



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Posted 29 March 2013 - 08:02 PM

I moved to Arizona in 2000.  They gave me a drivers license that is good till 2023.  This year they decided to make everybody come in and get a new license with an updated picture.  CHA CHING!  Another $12.00 per person.  Another way to suck more money out of everybody to fatten the state piggy bank ontop of the fee for an emissions test.  And my new license is still only good to 2023.



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Posted 29 March 2013 - 08:17 PM

James, I hear ya!

 

I'm sure the Illinois program is more a scam than anything else. First of all, they only test cars in the Chicago and St. Louis metro areas. If you live in Rockford, or Springfield, or the Quad Cities. or Champaign-Urbana, or Peoria, or anywhere else except metro Chicago or St. Louis... no testing! You can drive the biggest polluter in the state, belching black smoke and carcinogens like an old locomotive... hey, no problemo! We're only worried about cars that pollute the air in Chicago and St. Louis. Anywhere else in Illinois, free pass!  :rolleyes:

 

And as if that wasn't ridiculous enough... if your car pollutes the air so much that it fails the test, you get another shot. And another. And if you fail the test three times... you're exempt!!! If your car spews so much pollution into the air that it fails the test three times, hey... you're good to go!

 

My tax dollars at work...  :rolleyes:

Harry, when l lived in Chicago my dad had to take his pick up thru the safety lane every 3 months l think and they tested his truck exhaust. Since he did not have a camper he had to have a b commercial tag and could not park on city streets. Now that would get him going....



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Posted 29 March 2013 - 08:29 PM

Ahh Tom you just need to ask around to see who your local "Lick 'n Stick" garage is located. The place that charges a flat $20 for the inspection sticker and never even looks at your vehicle. Sure it's illegal, but there's one in every community, because they know what a load of nonsense it is. If course there's the inverse opposite, garages that fail every vehicle for something. Had one tell me I needed new brakes and tires to pass, the only problem was that SAME shop just did my brakes and tires (at my request) 2 months earlier. After I suggested the State Police might want to investigate the place for fraud my brakes and tires were magically O.K. again. Also you moved to the wrong part if PA, the entire state doesn't require emissions testing, only the filthy dirty urban parts.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 11:50 PM

They dropped emissions testing quite a few years ago here, I think the air quility is better now than it was then.



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Posted 30 March 2013 - 03:29 AM

I moved to Arizona in 2000.  They gave me a drivers license that is good till 2023.  This year they decided to make everybody come in and get a new license with an updated picture.  CHA CHING!  Another $12.00 per person.  Another way to suck more money out of everybody to fatten the state piggy bank ontop of the fee for an emissions test.  And my new license is still only good to 2023.


In WA, they make you get (and pay for) new plates every seven years because they "degrade and may not be readable". But, for a $50 fee, you can keep your old plates on your vehicle. What?

#32 my name is nobody

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 03:39 AM

threads like this make me smile.

thank god I live in Montana.

 

I lived in a state that required emission testing on vehicles.

what a scam. the best part was reading about all the epic failures 

due to the poorly educated help. like putting the rollers underneath the rear tires of a front wheel drive car,

or vice versa- the knuckleheads would put the rollers under the front tires of a rear wheel drive car.

when the policy was first instituted, the accidents were pretty much a daily event.



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Posted 30 March 2013 - 03:49 AM

Florida doesn't have emissions testing that I know of.  Harry - it sounds like a Cook County thing.  Maybe I should have said Crook County?



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Posted 30 March 2013 - 04:09 AM

Ahh Tom you just need to ask around to see who your local "Lick 'n Stick" garage is located. The place that charges a flat $20 for the inspection sticker and never even looks at your vehicle. Sure it's illegal, but there's one in every community, because they know what a load of nonsense it is. If course there's the inverse opposite, garages that fail every vehicle for something. Had one tell me I needed new brakes and tires to pass, the only problem was that SAME shop just did my brakes and tires (at my request) 2 months earlier. After I suggested the State Police might want to investigate the place for fraud my brakes and tires were magically O.K. again. Also you moved to the wrong part if PA, the entire state doesn't require emissions testing, only the filthy dirty urban parts.

 

I'm in Exton, Chester County. I'm about a half hour west of Philly. I know I bought here because I'm just outside what is considered "Main Line Philly", just where the housing and car insurance gets cheaper.  I do have a small garage I trust. He still charges for the inspections, but I get no grief about repairs etc from him.  My daughter just got a new car so I drove her old '99 Breeze back from NJ last night. I will register it in PA for my wife to use for work instead of driving the big Caravan everywhere.  From the 2 hour drive, I know something is up in the front end or brakes. I'll actually ask him to check the car out when he inspects it.



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Posted 30 March 2013 - 06:09 AM

Nevada, inspection every year whether you need to or not.

 

I find it comical that my '05 Lincoln requires yearly emissions tests, yet I live 110 miles from a nuclear weapon test site.

 

:huh:

 

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 06:19 AM

End of the month is always the worst time to go to those places.  Here in Phoenix it's every two years....last time I went, I went at 5 on a Tuesday in the middle of the month and was in and out in 15 minutes.



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Posted 30 March 2013 - 06:37 AM

In WA, they make you get (and pay for) new plates every seven years because they "degrade and may not be readable". But, for a $50 fee, you can keep your old plates on your vehicle. What?

That's funny...don't know what the rule is in AZ, but I've seen cars less than 10 years old w/ plates faded so much they are barely readable...



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Posted 30 March 2013 - 06:57 AM

 Maybe I should have said Crook County?

 

Oh yeah. Big time.



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Posted 30 March 2013 - 07:02 AM

I don't mind the idea of testing... I have nothing against clean air. What gets me is that only the people in metro Chicago and St. Louis have to be tested... they don't do testing anywhere else in the state! Why is it that clean air is important for some people, but not for the rest of them? Either everyone should be tested, or nobody should be tested. This picking and choosing only a couple of areas in the state is nuts.

 

Farmer Jones downstate can run his old smoke belching pickup all day long, but I have to pass a test?



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Posted 30 March 2013 - 07:04 AM

End of the month is always the worst time to go to those places.

 

Yeah, I should have known better. I'll go back in a week or two.