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#1 gtx6970

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Posted 14 April 2013 - 04:31 AM

Hopefully this is a quality kit

 

can anyone give me some feedback

 

$T2eC16JHJIQE9qUHrV)pBRWgmt2Y(w~~60_57.J



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Posted 14 April 2013 - 12:48 PM

I have one. it's typical heller quality, will look good with some work.



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Posted 14 April 2013 - 01:47 PM

Thanks , I had the opportunity to work on a 1/1 a few years ago that belongs to a local collector ,,, pretty cool lady that actually drives it , a lot . And that car struck a cord with me, so this will be  on my to do list later on.(maybe sooner once bench space clears up )

 

I don't need a 100% perfect or a kit that falls together with little to no effort on my part. From what I can see so far when viewing open kits, it looks decent . And I don't think the 2 piece body  will be a problem   provided the edges all line up and it fits together like it's supposed to , I'm good.

Plus, I'm in it less than $20 so if it's a pos, I'm not going to loose sleep over it .

 

I have one other Heller kit of a Hispana Suiza and it looked pretty good so when I seen the Alfa I thought , oh why not.

 

Thanks again for the feedback.


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Posted 14 April 2013 - 03:30 PM

I have one. it's typical heller quality, will look good with some work.

 

What do you consider "typical" Heller quality? Personally I find Heller all over the place from very good to rather poor as is common with most companies that have been around for decades.



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Posted 14 April 2013 - 05:48 PM

Typical from what ive seen, is fairly accurate body shape though often multi-piece. adequate chassis and engine detail, though some what simplified and often lacking engraved surface detail. takes a bit of work to look good. In short not as nice a current revell, not as bad as early revell.



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Posted 15 April 2013 - 03:23 AM

Personally, I consider this one a real little jewel. It is one of my all time favorite model kits and a favorite to admire on the shelf. The car is simply beautiful and the model offers a good reflection of that beauty.

 

So, you have had a chance to work on a 1:1 Alfa of this vintage? What a treat! Isn't that about a $2-3 million car? WOW! While I have messed around with some Duesenbergs and Rolls Royces I have never had the opportunity to work on an Alfa. You are a lucky guy indeed.

 

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 03:59 AM

Yes a real one. I used to work for a local restoration shop that specializes in brass era / pre war  car restorations. They do extremly high end restorations ( Pebble Beach quality )  and Real High end street rods .

 And I was in awe everytime I worked on it. Especially when I was told it was worth upwards of 1.5 mil

Cool part is ,  the owner is a lady  thats not afraid to drive it ., She actually used to vintage race it , now retired btw

 

The actual car is about 2/3rds the way down this link

 

http://www.ohioconco...com/2003/sa.htm



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Posted 15 April 2013 - 04:52 AM

Just looked at mine and it gives every impression of being build-able into something really outstanding. The proportions look good, and there's enough engraving detail so that added wiring, fluid lines, etc. should really make it pop. It would definitely benefit from hand-laced wheels and better clear parts.

 

The only problem I noticed is a lot of heavy sink marks in the frame rails that will require filling.

 

Must have been a treat to work on the real one. That's one car I've never even seen up close.



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Posted 15 April 2013 - 05:17 AM

Does the kit have the front crank mounted blower ? or does it  represent a naturately  asperated car ?

 

my purchase will not be here for a few days and I was just wondering as the car I worked on was a blown car



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Posted 15 April 2013 - 02:59 PM

Yup, she's blown.



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Posted 15 April 2013 - 03:46 PM

Any pics of what's inside, Bill, or has it yet to arrive?



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Posted 15 April 2013 - 04:15 PM

not here yet.

my guess is end of the week

 

The more i know about the kit , the more I want to push some others out of the way and move this one to the ft of the line.

 

The actual car was just that cool. Plus I'll probably  access to the real one for references for the moment . A couple weeks back I was at my former place of employment and saw it's back in the shop having some work done over the winter. So I may seize the moment so to speak .



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Posted 15 April 2013 - 08:18 PM

Neato. I think I'll have to add this to "be on the lookout for.."

 

I have a very cool idea (I think) for displaying my pre-war high-zoot cars, and this will be another one to add to the display.

 

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 10:06 AM

mine went together well . The two part body , as like any of my multi-part portioned kits , I pre-assembled and painted as a unit .  It looks great on the shelf next to a 1500 Alpha made by Nitto (? IIRC) . I did not recall a blower . It is un-accessible to me , but I can see it when the flashlight is in just the right angle .. lol ..    Thanx ..



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Posted 16 April 2013 - 10:59 AM

I built this one decades ago and it's pretty much what you see, comparatively simple. The worst part is the wire wheels, which will never look right out of the box. Needs Rosso Corsa or dark red paint, not typical Italian red.

 

If you don't replace the wires with Herb Deeks wheels from eBay, at least use needle files to thin down the outer parts as much as possible.


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Posted 16 April 2013 - 06:10 PM

Typical from what ive seen, is fairly accurate body shape though often multi-piece. adequate chassis and engine detail, though some what simplified and often lacking engraved surface detail. takes a bit of work to look good. In short not as nice a current revell, not as bad as early revell.

 

Thanks, I have the Heller Bentley which looks very nice, but have mostly built Heller aircraft kits. Most recently their Caudron 714 which was awful (maybe as bad as the 1-1) and their Morane Saulnier 406 which was pretty good for an older 1/72 kit.

 

The Alfa sounds like a nice kit, will have to add it to my wish list.



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Posted 17 April 2013 - 01:36 AM

Thanks to all for the feedback. I really appreciate it. I've never heard of , built or even had a Heller kit till recently, now I'l have 2

 

With the luck I've had on drag car builds lately I may take a break from them ,,,,,,and build the Alfa-Romeo sooner than I had originally planned. Especially while the 1/1 is so close and readily avail to ck details if needed.

 

I'll look into the wheels once the kit arrives then decide how to procede.

 

Thanks again



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Posted 22 April 2013 - 08:28 AM

Got it today. and it's still sealed inside. Looking at it I REALLY like it and it may coem to the ft of line asap.

 

Tires themselves seem kind of rubbery though , not sure what my options are to get a similar size and shape for this car. I don't have anything in the parts box that even comes close


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Posted 17 May 2013 - 07:20 PM

the kit isn't to bad to build, the areas I found wanting are the frame & engine lacking fine details, but with some effort and detailing they can become quite good though, the front grill is one piece and the slits are not very deep, so multiple washes to darken them will help give it a more realistic look

good luck!



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Posted 18 May 2013 - 05:06 AM

Scroll about a third of the way down this page, and there are several shots of a good box-stock build, which should help you see how it comes together without much modification.

 

http://www.flickr.co.../page4/?view=lg