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#21 HNTR

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 11:05 AM

By the way, have you seen the prices for 1959-1961 Buick kits/buildups on evilbay?

Yes, if you can find one their in the $100's.

 



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Posted 26 April 2013 - 01:11 PM

I rescued a $5 swap meet special '59 Buick too years ago. Sweet lines on that sled !

What's the game plan for this one?

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 02:22 PM

What's the game plan for this one?

The paint scheme is the first 2 pics. The rest is opening up the hood, scribing all new lines, convertible also with a soft top option, and total customization. Chrome, chrome, and more chrome.

It's a Buick so it has to be pure classy. All I can say is to stay tuned. 


Edited by HNTR, 26 April 2013 - 02:23 PM.


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Posted 26 April 2013 - 02:34 PM

From your pics, the model looks like a '60 and not a '59.



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Posted 26 April 2013 - 03:17 PM



From your pics, the model looks like a '60 and not a '59.

The 60's headlights are all level across, while the 59 they are sloping up. The 59 is the only year the headlights and grill were of this configuration.

 

1958 Buick Front end

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1959 Buick Front end

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1960 Buick Front end

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That front end to me is what really makes this car. It almost looks like its mean. I think the movie Christine should of been this car. Not the "Fury" they say it was or the "Belvedere" it really was.


Edited by HNTR, 26 April 2013 - 03:22 PM.


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Posted 26 April 2013 - 04:28 PM

That is not a bad model to start with. From the description of the work you plan to do, the model should be magnificant when you are done.



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Posted 27 April 2013 - 07:45 AM

Interesting looking old Buick. One thing that looks odd is the front end looks like a '59, and the rear fins look like a '60. The '59s had a more pointed fin and the '60s were a little shorter and rounded much like your model.

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 08:15 AM

The 60's headlights are all level across, while the 59 they are sloping up. The 59 is the only year the headlights and grill were of this configuration.

 

1958 Buick Front end

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1959 Buick Front end

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1960 Buick Front end

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That front end to me is what really makes this car. It almost looks like its mean. I think the movie Christine should of been this car. Not the "Fury" they say it was or the "Belvedere" it really was.

Ya got me there as I noticed the rounded fin tips on the model and it remided me of the '60. Thanks.



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Posted 27 April 2013 - 08:35 AM

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Here is a resin '59 Buick body over the Revell 1959 Chevy convertible chassis.  First, it's too short. I lengthened it over the front wheels to get it to fit the body.  Second, it's absolutely the wrong chassis.  I got wacked on the board for it, and lost enthusiasm for the project.  So it sits waiting for a better idea.

 

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and here's a picture of the stock AMT chassis that is under the AMT 1960 Buick. I'm not sure if this is right for the '59


Edited by Tom Geiger, 27 April 2013 - 08:36 AM.


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Posted 27 April 2013 - 10:25 AM

It seems that the whole rear end has been sanded. From the panel line to the fins, their all gone. 

 

Tom, That is the same frame I am going to use. It doesn't matter if it is the right frame or not. I like accuracy but I have started many models trying to do them accurate but all that has done was left an unbuilt kit in a box.  Look at all the Tom Daniels kits, Not fully accurate there is it? I am not building this one for accuracy, as much as I am building it for myself. Don't let people bring you down. It is about having fun with your hobby!



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Posted 27 April 2013 - 12:25 PM

Tom, the chassis on my '59 is almost identical to the '60 one you show. 

 

The main difference is that the '59 had no engine, so the underside of the engine is modled right in the chassis. 

 

Also, the screw mounts are in a different location, probably to allow for the opening hood and engine on the '60.

 

And I agree - the modified chevy chassis you did looks good - I'd just go ahead and finish it with that.



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Posted 27 April 2013 - 12:48 PM

The '59 and '60 Buicks used what GM called a K Frame. The one Tom posted as an AMT stock '60 in post #29 is essentially correct, as far as the frame itself goes. The suspension parts...well it gets a little wonky there. lol.

 

Between the two years there were only minor differences, basically in the way the big K member was shaped in profile, to allow the designers to drop the front floors down just a tad.

 

That all said, Tom, you gotta finish that sucker. These cars are epic and the bottom is completely unimportant in relation to the top side. Besides, GM frame designs of the era changed with the wind. If you don't want to finish it, send it to me...I'd be more than happy to have it! :D



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Posted 27 April 2013 - 01:13 PM

UPDATE: Like I said, all the panel lines have been sanded off in the rear. I have taped new panel lines and began scribing. I also have the hood almost out but due to it being the main stabilizer in the front I will finish that job once all other scribing is done. I am making the panel lines a little bit wider because I want wider chrome there. lol I was also going to sharpen the "fins" in the rear but decided not to. I like the way the curves on this car are and feel the curves will look much better like on the 1960 Buick. I am still going to use the '60 Impala convertible kit as the donor for the chasis and most of the other parts, sue me. Here are the pics.

  Hood almost cut out

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  Scribing lines taped off.

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Edited by HNTR, 27 April 2013 - 01:16 PM.


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Posted 27 April 2013 - 01:16 PM

It seems that the whole rear end has been sanded. From the panel line to the fins, their all gone. 

 

Tom, That is the same frame I am going to use. It doesn't matter if it is the right frame or not. I like accuracy but I have started many models trying to do them accurate but all that has done was left an unbuilt kit in a box.  Look at all the Tom Daniels kits, Not fully accurate there is it? I am not building this one for accuracy, as much as I am building it for myself. Don't let people bring you down. It is about having fun with your hobby!

Exactly, and you're not plannin' on displaying your model upside down are you?



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Posted 27 April 2013 - 01:18 PM

Exactly, and you're not plannin' on displaying your model upside down are you?

No sir, but it will still look good upside down. This is my "CUSTOM" 1959 Buick. lol



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Posted 27 April 2013 - 01:27 PM

Looks good to me. A competent fab shop COULD build this 1:1 on a Chevy frame too. Use what ya' got, make it work. The REAL hot-rod way.



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Posted 27 April 2013 - 03:25 PM

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as far as the chrome trim lines on the fins, they are pretty much non existent on the original kit. I just checked the above car as well as another untouched resin body I have.  Very faint lines on the top, nothing on the underside. On the 1:1 car, the top and bottom of the fin are two different pieces and are pinch welded and unfinished under the chrome.

 

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And here's a shot of the 1:1 1960 Electra 2 door hardtop I used to own. Should have kept it!



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Posted 28 April 2013 - 01:10 PM

I believe that is the exact bumper and tire carrier I am using. I also like those taillights.



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Posted 28 April 2013 - 02:23 PM

I believe that is the exact bumper and tire carrier I am using. I also like those taillights.

 

Thanks Mark that is the bumper / connie kit from the Revell '59 Chevy convertible kit. I molded in the lower valance from the kit too.  The tail lights are AMT '57 Ford with a Revell '59 Caddy bullet mounted in the center.

 

I've been playing with this one since the late 1980s. The body was a slush cast blob from a long defunct company. It was a hardtop but the pillars were so thin I just broke the roof off.  There was a ton of slag attached to the rocker panels and the rear quarters were short shots. It was a mess. It took a lot of on and off work just to make it look like a nicely cast resin body!

 

I believe I will finish this one.  I recently found a set of custom pattern seats I wanted to use in it.  As far as explaining the chassis,  I do have some Cuba license plates... somebody built up the Buick convertible on an available Chevy chassis.. yea, that's the story!   :)



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Posted 05 May 2013 - 03:35 AM

Sorry it has been a little while since I posted. Still carving out the lines. Found a pic of exactly how I want to build this kit. I will also have to carve out the grill and redo it. Here is a pic of how I do plan I building it, other than I am building a convertible. The interior will have some light blue highlights. 

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Edited by HNTR, 05 May 2013 - 07:47 AM.