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#41 1930fordpickup

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 04:21 AM

Harry this layout is fine. The more it is changed, the more you will have to move stuff around. If you go through the forum enough you will learn it . Ace is correct we are just lazy and do not read. This could be out of frustration from what the question is about or something else in life. We are just keeping you on your toes.  :)



#42 slantasaurus

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 04:21 AM

But its at the bottom of the page

 

Somehow I think that if there were a T&A topic at the bottom of the page nobody would have a problem scrolling down for it...... :D



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Posted 26 April 2013 - 04:25 AM

 

Seriously??? You're serious?

 

You can't be serious.

 

You don't know how to scroll down a web page? 

 

Like ace said, I guess I'll have to come up with a method where all the topics are the first ones on the page! Soon as I figure that one out I'll get back to you.

Harry , I  guess you didn't get my sarcasm  .Thanks for clearing up the use of serious , I wont make that mistake again



#44 Brett Barrow

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 04:36 AM

OK, so pickups and big trucks are segregated from each other and then segregated even further from other models.  Makes perfect sense now :rolleyes:

 

Lemme see if I've got this right with a few example topics:

 

Asking where to buy Alclad = General

 

Asking how to use Alclad = Q&A

 

Asking which is better, Alclad or Metalizer = General

 

Asking what is the better shade of Alclad for painting a specific part = Q&A

 

Coming right out and telling everybody how you use Alclad = Tips & Tricks

 

Coming right out and telling everybody how much you hate using Alclad = General

 

Saying "Hey everybody, my hamster died" = General (located at the top of the page of a modeling site)

 

Saying "Hey everybody, we're having a model show" = Model Shows (located at the bottom of the page of a modeling site)

 

Saying "Hey everybody, my house burned down" = General (located at the top of the page of a modeling site)

 

Saying "Hey everybody, my house burned down - but it's where we held our model club meetings" = Model Club News (located at the bottom of the page of a modeling site)

 

I bought a kit today = Big giant thread on General board

 

I bought a kit today and took some pictures of the sprues = Car (or Truck!) Kit Reviews

 

I bought a kit today and took some pictures of the sprues and started working on it and took some pictures of that = On the Workbench

 

I built a Monogram Little T as a roadster with a turtledeck = Cars Under Glass

 

I built a Monogram Little T as a roadster with slicks and a number on the side = Drag Racing

 

I built a Monogram Little T as a roadster with a pickup bed = Trucks Under Glass

 

I built a Monogram Big T as a roadster with a pickup bed = Big Boyz

 

Again, I'm no rocket surgeon, but it seems like if you set up a forum ostensibly under the guise of a modeling forum, then take all the time to come up with all these little compartments for different subjects, then your "Ah, screw it, everything that doesn't fit somewhere else goes here" board ends up being the largest and most trafficked board and is given the prominence of being at the top of the page, then maybe you didn't do too good of a job when coming up with all those little compartments in the first place...     



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Posted 26 April 2013 - 04:37 AM

Suggestion for those who think navigating this layout is too difficult: Next time you go in the grocery store looking for a can of chili, don't go down the aisle that says "chili". Go to the tomato counter, 'cause some chili has tomatoes in it. Or go to the meat counter, 'cause some chili has meat in it. Or go to the bean display, 'cause some chili has beans in it. Then when you can't find the chili, complain to the management. :)

 

And, when you go to the other store across town that's run by a different company, if the chili isn't in the exact same place it was in in the first store (even though there's an aisle clearly marked "chili" in the second store too) complain to the management. :)



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Posted 26 April 2013 - 04:48 AM

I don't think it's as "blindingly obvious" as all that. If I'm LOOKING for tips and tricks (eg "How do I make my own decals and use them on black cars?", say), then I look though the Tips and Tricks section, and if I don't find any, I'd probably most likely ask for them in the Tips and Tricks section. If I ask the question in the Q&A section, do the people posting answers put them in the Tips and Tricks section? They're Answers to Q&A, after all. But they're also tips and tricks, and, in future, are more likely to be useful, and to be found, in the T&T section...

 

Personally, I'd combine both sections into a "Modelling Techniques and Advice" single forum...

 

...though y'all'd probably want to spell it modeling, wudn't ya? ;-P

 

bestest,

M.


Edited by Matt Bacon, 26 April 2013 - 04:50 AM.


#47 Harry P.

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 04:51 AM

Harry , I  guess you didn't get my sarcasm  .Thanks for clearing up the use of serious , I wont make that mistake again

 

Sorry Kevin, I totally missed the sarcasm. But reading some of the other comments here, you can understand why I thought you were being serious!  :lol:



#48 george 53

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 04:54 AM

You started it ALL Harry, by askin a simple question! Foo....at'll larn ya!



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Posted 26 April 2013 - 04:59 AM

Personally, I'd combine both sections into a "Modelling Techniques and Advice" single forum...

 

...though y'all'd probably want to spell it modeling, wudn't ya? ;-P

 

bestest,

M.

 

I couldn't agree more. The overlap between the Q&A and TT&T sections is the heaviest by far for any sections here on the forum. I think that new section should be located immediately after Gen. Disc., too.

 

Bonus points for use of a double contraction.  :)



#50 Harry P.

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 05:00 AM

To Brett's comments about how the sections are arranged... General first, then Model Cars, then Model Trucks, etc...

 

The sections have to be in some sort of order. They can't all be the first one at the top.

 

Is putting "General" at the top the best possible way to do things? Should it be at the bottom, the last item? Should Q&A be the first section?

 

It's all a matter of personal preference. It's not a science, it's a matter of someone deciding on an order, and then we live with it. No matter what order we put stuff in, I guarantee you that someone will complain about it. Absolutely guarantee it. The way things are set up right now is not perfect, because perfection can't be achieved. But I think things are arranged in a pretty logical way, different topics and subjects are easy to find. Now if only some of you would pay attention to the fact that we have different sections for different things! Will there be cases where something could reasonably fit in more than one place? Of course! If so, just use your own best judgement. But for crying out loud, stop doing stuff like posting questions about what paint to use for whitewalls in the Under Glass section!!!



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Posted 26 April 2013 - 05:10 AM

You Will never stop it from happening. Just look at the Drag and race cars in Under glass . Harry even you posted in the one race car  post  in Under class. Where do Race cars go Harry? Mercedes Race Car is the title of the post.Just wondering where race cars go on this board?


Edited by James Flowers, 26 April 2013 - 05:11 AM.


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Posted 26 April 2013 - 05:16 AM

You Will never stop it from happening. Just look at the Drag and race cars in Under glass . Harry even you posted in the one race car  post  in Under class. Where do Race cars go Harry? Mercedes Race Car is the titile of the post.Just wondering where race cars go on this board?

 

That's one of the inherent compromises with how the forum categories are set up, as some models fit into multiple categories. As long as a 1/16 scale Petty NASCAR model is posted in either the NASCAR, Big Scale, or Model Cars: OTW or UG, it's fine. It fits in all of them, not just one.



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Posted 26 April 2013 - 05:24 AM

Shouldn't this be posted in the ask a question section? after all it is a question :D

That was my first question. :lol:



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Posted 26 April 2013 - 05:26 AM

I know that something has to be top of the page, I would expect that to be the Rules and Guidelines, like usual, but I've just never seen another modeling board that has its off-topic, random BLAH_BLAH_BLAH_BLAH, stream-of-consciousness board at the very top of the page.  Maybe make "General" into only posts about cars and trucks either 1:1 or in scale and general modeling topics and make a totally completely off-topic "My hamster died, my cat is sick, I stubbed my toe..."  board somewhere down the page?  General is just a hot mess as it is.  General might as well be Spotlight...  

 

But there are plenty of folks that like that random, wandering, stream-of-consciousness style I'm sure.  



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Posted 26 April 2013 - 05:27 AM

:mellow:

Yes Danno, yours is adorable too. :D



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Posted 26 April 2013 - 05:34 AM

jw78z28, on 25 Apr 2013 - 9:22 PM, said:snapback.png

Shouldn't this be posted in the ask a question section? after all it is a question :D

...then Greg Myers said:

 

That was my first question. :lol:

 

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So I just gotta ask...

 

But, uh, under Q&A it says:       "Do you have a specific ....modeling..... question?".

 

What am I missing here?  Does the phrase " Do you have a specific modeling question? " actually mean anything in English, or is it the same as "dfpgpfgkhhgfgpig?". :D


Edited by Ace-Garageguy, 26 April 2013 - 05:37 AM.


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Posted 26 April 2013 - 05:35 AM

 Maybe make "General" into only posts about cars and trucks either 1:1 or in scale and general modeling topics 

Then mcm would be like sa that 95% of the people hear whine and grip about



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Posted 26 April 2013 - 05:40 AM

OK, so pickups and big trucks are segregated from each other and then segregated even further from other models.  Makes perfect sense now :rolleyes:

 

Lemme see if I've got this right with a few example topics:

 

Asking where to buy Alclad = General

 

Asking how to use Alclad = Q&A

 

Asking which is better, Alclad or Metalizer = General

 

Asking what is the better shade of Alclad for painting a specific part = Q&A

 

Coming right out and telling everybody how you use Alclad = Tips & Tricks

 

Coming right out and telling everybody how much you hate using Alclad = General

 

Saying "Hey everybody, my hamster died" = General (located at the top of the page of a modeling site)

 

Saying "Hey everybody, we're having a model show" = Model Shows (located at the bottom of the page of a modeling site)

 

Saying "Hey everybody, my house burned down" = General (located at the top of the page of a modeling site)

 

Saying "Hey everybody, my house burned down - but it's where we held our model club meetings" = Model Club News (located at the bottom of the page of a modeling site)

 

I bought a kit today = Big giant thread on General board

 

I bought a kit today and took some pictures of the sprues = Car (or Truck!) Kit Reviews

 

I bought a kit today and took some pictures of the sprues and started working on it and took some pictures of that = On the Workbench

 

I built a Monogram Little T as a roadster with a turtledeck = Cars Under Glass

 

I built a Monogram Little T as a roadster with slicks and a number on the side = Drag Racing

 

I built a Monogram Little T as a roadster with a pickup bed = Trucks Under Glass

 

I built a Monogram Big T as a roadster with a pickup bed = Big Boyz

 

Again, I'm no rocket surgeon, but it seems like if you set up a forum ostensibly under the guise of a modeling forum, then take all the time to come up with all these little compartments for different subjects, then your "Ah, screw it, everything that doesn't fit somewhere else goes here" board ends up being the largest and most trafficked board and is given the prominence of being at the top of the page, then maybe you didn't do too good of a job when coming up with all those little compartments in the first place...     



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Posted 26 April 2013 - 05:42 AM

"dfpgpfgkhhgfgpig?"

 

No , that would only be on the spotlite board. :P


Edited by Greg Myers, 26 April 2013 - 05:44 AM.


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Posted 26 April 2013 - 05:57 AM

There are too many categories here. While it's easy for us that have been here for some time, I can easily see how it could be confusing for a new member. I seriously doubt that people are putting their topics in the wrong places. More than likely, they are just overwhelmed with all of the different categories. It's easy to see how someone could think that their question or whatever could go there. Maybe people do it to get their question answered more quickly since it seems to get the most traffic.

 

Personally, I like the General section being at the top. It's where I go to first usually. There was a time here when people complained about non model topics being posted in the General section. I never had a problem with it personally. More than likely, I probably started a few non model topics in there myself. I'm also pretty sure that at one time or another, just about everyone here has posted a topic that was non model related in the General section..  

 

I really wish we could go back to the old days of Under Glass when the only qualification was that it was a finished model. Short of that,I think it would work well to have an Under Glass with sub sections like so.

 

Under Glass with these sub sections

 

Cars: any car whether it's drag, NASCAR whatever. any scale

 

Trucks: anything from a pickup to a big rig

 

Other: anything non automotive or less than four wheels

 

I would do the same with the Workbench section.

 

I really don't understand why some groups of people want their own section just because that's all they build. Maybe if they were exposed to other types of builds, they might try something new and actually enjoy it.